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SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools

Offline STRyk

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SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« on: March 22, 2021, 02:34:37 PM »
Bonjour,
J'essaye de passer ma future configuration sous SME10 et je butte encore sur des choses que je ne comprends pas :

Impossible de telecharger "lazy_admin_tools" :

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# yum install --downloadonly --downloaddir=Packages_smeserver-lazy_admin_tools --enablerepo=smecontribs smeserver-lazy_admin_tools
Modules complémentaires chargés : fastestmirror, post-transaction-actions, priorities, smeserver
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: centos-mirror.usessionbuddy.com
 * smeaddons: ftp.nluug.nl
 * smecontribs: ftp.nluug.nl
 * smeextras: ftp.nluug.nl
 * smeos: ftp.nluug.nl
 * smeupdates: ftp.nluug.nl
 * updates: fr2.rpmfind.net
427 packages excluded due to repository priority protections
Aucun paquet smeserver-lazy_admin_tools disponible.
Erreur : Rien à faire

Je ne comprends toujours pas comment fonctionne "yum".
Et toujours pas comment trouver le bon fichier "lazy_admin_tools".
Un mystère ce système de recherche de documents. Alors pour progresser sur SME, vous imaginez :(
Avant c'était simple, un coups de google ou autre outil de recherche, mais là...

Ce qui m'ennuie sur la chose c'est que nous somme toujours obliger de vous solliciter.
Désolé mais là je ne comprends toujours pas le fonctionnement.
Merci encore pour votre aide !

Offline ReetP

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #1 on: March 22, 2021, 06:10:44 PM »
Because we aren't properly releasing contribs yet.

A lot have been migrated and will be in one of the test repos.

We will start releasing them fairly soon but we need to make sure the core is stable with no major issues first. Once we are happy with that we'll look at contribs.

There are notes elsewhere in the forums on how to TEST install some of the contribs.

Please be careful though. They are not necessarily 'production ready'.

Check the bugs carefully.
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1. Read the Manual
2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

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Offline STRyk

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #2 on: March 22, 2021, 06:15:27 PM »
OK.
Yes, I wanted to test.
Can I install "smeserver-lazy_admin_tools-1.1-4.el6.sme.noarch.rpm" on SME10b1 ?

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #3 on: March 22, 2021, 06:37:28 PM »
OK.
Yes, I wanted to test.
Can I install "smeserver-lazy_admin_tools-1.1-4.el6.sme.noarch.rpm" on SME10b1 ?

Seeing as it is el6 I wouldn't. You have el7..... There are masses of changes and you risk borking your box, especially with a tool as dangerous as this.

Please read other messages here on how to install test packages, but I'm not sure if this has been migrated yet. Check bugzilla.
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1. Read the Manual
2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

If you love SME and don't want to lose it, join in: http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation

Offline STRyk

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #4 on: March 22, 2021, 06:46:49 PM »
OK. It's too hard for me to test seriously SME10.
 :sad:

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #5 on: March 22, 2021, 06:56:52 PM »
A good time to learn then. We all had too....!

Or you have to be patient.

You could help yourself a lot by reading and searching.

https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=11033
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1. Read the Manual
2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

If you love SME and don't want to lose it, join in: http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation

Offline STRyk

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #6 on: March 22, 2021, 07:03:57 PM »
To be successful in testing correctly I will have to bore you a lot of times. It is not possible...

Thanks for the link.

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #7 on: March 22, 2021, 09:57:35 PM »
Bonsoir,
Si tu veux tester ta contribution, je peux essayer de te donner un coup de main pour avancer.
En plusieurs mois de test de SME 10, je commence à comprendre certaines choses.
Mais il faut faire cela sur un serveur de test parce que le risque de crash est trop grand...
Bonne soirée.

Offline STRyk

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #8 on: March 22, 2021, 11:40:00 PM »
Oui, une machine de test, c'est bien sur ce qui est prévu.
Merci Gieres, c'est très gentil de te proposer mais je ne veux pas faire perdre du temps aux autres car nous vons tous plein de choses à faire.
Je voulais surtout mettre en place sur SME 10 ce que j'ai actuellement sur 9.2 avant que la version finale sorte et telle sorte à renvoyer des choses qui me parraissent mal focntionner de façon à faire avancer SME10, mais je crains qu'il y a ai trop de choses nouvelles. Je vais faire trainer du monde pour rien.
Trop de choses et pas assez de temps :(
J'attendrais que SME10 sorte. Je sais que ça sera sport et j'ai peur que ce soit pareil pour beaucoup de monde. SME est utilisé par des utilisteurs lambda et repartir sur de nouvelles technique va etre quelque chose !
Même si on reste sous Linux, ce que j'ai vu me fait dire qu'il va y avoir du boulot !

Je suis bien conscient que l'on est juste coté utilisateur, donc je n'imagine même pas coté alpha test en programmation...  :lol:

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #9 on: March 23, 2021, 12:37:03 AM »
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To be successful in testing correctly I will have to bore you a lot of times. It is not possible...

Try me....... I call your bluff.

But you have to do some reading first so you understand your issue. Only then can you learn how to do something about it.

Or talk with gieres.

He has become a top tester and has done a huge amount of work to help us. It has been a pleasure to work with him.

He volunteered, was given some guidance, read a lot, tried a lot, and learned a lot.

And then he could help us, and himself.

Like all open source you will get out what you put in.

We only know what we know because we wanted to learn, and give back. We were not born like it.

You have to make a choice. You can sit and wait and wonder why people don't help much, or get involved and find you get a lot back.
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1. Read the Manual
2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

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Offline STRyk

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2021, 12:52:31 AM »
People do not help much because they do not have the capacity to understand the problems. Neither the time and do not want to take the time elsewhere. It's easier to like on facebook.
For my part, I don't have time to sit down and do nothing unfortunately. Volunteering I practice (too) often, I don't have a choice and so I don't have time for anything else.
In short, my life is not the subject here. But you have to understand that we do not all work in IT. Computing is a tool, but it should not become a burden and it is increasingly the case. Apple including!

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #11 on: March 23, 2021, 01:10:26 AM »
For my part, I don't have time to sit down and do nothing unfortunately.

What makes you think we have all day with nothing to do??

Our lead developer had a second child in January....

See No. 4 in my sig.

We ALL have busy lives. We could all say we are too busy and do nothing. Then what???
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1. Read the Manual
2. Read the Wiki
3. Don't ask for support on Unsupported versions of software
4. I have a job, wife, and kids and do this in my spare time. If you want something fixed, please help.

Bugs are easier than you think: http://wiki.contribs.org/Bugzilla_Help

If you love SME and don't want to lose it, join in: http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation

Offline STRyk

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Re: SME 10 & lazy_admin_tools
« Reply #12 on: March 23, 2021, 01:18:15 AM »
You do not understand what I am writing. Never mind.