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helping with sme10

Offline jameswilson

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helping with sme10
« on: May 19, 2019, 09:10:42 PM »
Id like to help with it, i cant really code but i have a few proxmox boxes so i can create easily. Is there an idiots testing list either someone can send me and i can work through or other ways i can help. I love how sme works and want to see it continue etc

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2019, 11:20:04 PM »
Starting points:

https://wiki.contribs.org/SME10.0_QA

https://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server_10.0_Development

https://wiki.contribs.org/Verification_Queue

Post updates etc to relevant Bugs, raise a bug when something is found that should work and doesn't or is in error

A basic testing scratch pad

Courtesy Chris Burnat
==========SUGGESTED SANITY CHECK===================

Release version Install to a VM/Hardware
SingleHD, Raid1 2 x HDs
eg ERROR - Install Splash screen shows version info SME Server 9.1 beta2
Image test..
Install proceeds as expected..
Login prompt -> console..
motd shows correct version..
login to console..OK
All items appear to function as expected..
Yum update..

VPN access and PPTP enabling in remote management..
Create a user..
Create a group..
Create an i-Bay..
Remote management to server-manager..
Perform console backup & restore..
Hosting http..
Hosting https..
Access external http..
Access external https..
SSH access to server..
Use Webmail..
Use Samba, Win 7, 8, 10 workstations..
Check admin email..
Send Email..
Receive Email..
Perform Backup to desktop..
Perform Workstation Backup..
Verify Workstation Backup..
Restore from Workstation Backup..
Selective file restore from Workstation Backup..
FTP to this server
FTP from this server to another
Fail one drive and replace it with new one + resync
Install with 1 drive then add second drive & sync

Parse all logs to find errors (check http://wiki.contribs.org/Useful_Commands)

Note: This list is by no means complete...
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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2019, 11:21:36 AM »
PPTP should be deprecated/removed/buried :-)
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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2019, 05:48:30 PM »
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Release version Install to a VM/Hardware
SingleHD, Raid1 2 x HDs
I have installed 10a4 with single and dual disks and neither install sets up raid 1
ie no degraded raid 1 with single disk
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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #4 on: May 23, 2019, 05:28:04 AM »
Known issue. Anaconda does not allow anymore degraded array to be used to install. Philosophical debate here, but at the end the core of anaconda would need hours of work and analyze (from us) to add this functionality back as upstream make it clear they do not want it.
Not sure it will happen, unless you have a python guru available with free time.
« Last Edit: May 23, 2019, 05:29:46 AM by Jean-Philippe Pialasse »

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #5 on: May 23, 2019, 11:53:34 PM »
Known issue. Anaconda does not allow anymore degraded array to be used to install. Philosophical debate here, but at the end the core of anaconda would need hours of work and analyze (from us) to add this functionality back as upstream make it clear they do not want it.
Not sure it will happen, unless you have a python guru available with free time.
Fair enough, can the installer be changed then to offer mdadm or zfs options for install. I assume most sme installs are on bare metal so would ideally want to have the raid 1 / z as a default option if the drives were in place at install time?

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2019, 05:59:43 AM »
If two drives are available raid 1 should be the default unless you play with disks in the gui.

Zfs is not offered with red hat. They allow xfs. It would also need to be able to modify the installer to make zfs available. It also requires a few steps to make it available on an already installed fresh centos 7

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #7 on: May 24, 2019, 11:15:06 AM »
Out of the several SME servers I have, only one is on baremetal, and that's a very old affa backup box that isn't worth changing.

Personally I'll never run another SME on real hardware.

No idea on stats on this though.
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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #8 on: May 24, 2019, 01:01:11 PM »
As per suggested by Reetp raid is less a priority when running as a vm as host will handle that.
 I tend however to keep bare install for gateway installation.

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #9 on: May 29, 2019, 11:27:59 AM »
As per suggested by Reetp raid is less a priority when running as a vm as host will handle that.
 I tend however to keep bare install for gateway installation.
I can see that
But just to close it up, with either a single or dual identical drives at install time no raid is created.
Just reporting it to help hopefully

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #10 on: May 29, 2019, 11:48:53 AM »
If it hasn't got one already, it probably needs a Wiki entry on "Known SME 10 issues" or similar.

Here?

https://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:10.0Alpha4
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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #11 on: May 29, 2019, 11:59:50 AM »
I can see that
But just to close it up, with either a single or dual identical drives at install time no raid is created.
Just reporting it to help hopefully

Just re-read this.

We know it doesn’t create a degraded RAID if you only have one drive.

But I think it SHOULD create an array with DUAL drives.

Can you just confirm this please?

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #12 on: May 29, 2019, 12:02:54 PM »
If it hasn't got one already, it probably needs a Wiki entry on "Known SME 10 issues" or similar.

Here?

https://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:10.0Alpha4

I did note the following here https://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:10.0Alpha4

"The spare handling for RAID arrays is not implemented as yet."

However, I don't believe that relates to James's issue.
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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #13 on: May 29, 2019, 12:06:12 PM »
To confirm, built a vm with 2 x 32GB drives and no raid was created

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Re: helping with sme10
« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2019, 12:09:03 PM »
To confirm, built a vm with 2 x 32GB drives and no raid was created

OK... we need to look at that then....

I PM'd you but if you want an account on my Rocket.Chat instance then please ask and I'll sort it. Terry is usually there and has Prox and does a lot of testing so he can guide you.
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