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Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?

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Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« on: June 20, 2017, 10:37:43 PM »
As per title, please share your experiences here. Please give it a try as a very easy VM test run, we need your feedback.

Please see our Dashboard wiki page where we are atm: https://wiki.contribs.org/Dashboard#tab=SME_Server_10_Alpha

TIA!

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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #1 on: July 04, 2017, 01:19:59 PM »
I have installed it as a VM and checked that it runs and I can access Server-Manager using PuTTY. I have not tested more than that yet. Perhaps by the end of the week ...... looks good so far. I used the graphical installer to build it, the first time I have seen it. Very exciting. Thanks.
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2017, 02:56:08 PM »
Graphical installer looks good, selected language then a problem which prevents me installing - reported a bug in Anaconda
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #3 on: July 17, 2017, 10:10:27 PM »
I've been playing around with this for a while. I for the life of me cannot figure out how to get the A3 to build a raid 5 disk array with the 5 disks I have installed.
The system sees them ok, anaconda sees them ok, the system always installs on one disk. The install works correctly, just no raid. Horde works, my transfer from 8 works no other issues found so far.
9.2 is a dream to use, the best so far of the SME series and I have been using it since 5.(2000). The graphical install of 10 is pretty,,, unfortunately pretty confusing.
 
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2017, 10:14:02 PM »
Ah, also one of my motherboards is a zotac with an amd apu with radeon graphics,,, no go on the graphical stuff as there are driver issues with the embedded video.
All my other systems work well though. I installed 9.2 on the zotac, got video driver errors but the install completed properly.
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2017, 04:59:04 AM »
gyrcom

There needs to be hardware (motherboard chipset video graphics etc) compatibility with the underlying Linux version that sme server uses.

For sme10A3 it is based on CentOS 7.2.1511 and all available updates

For sme 9.2 it is based on CentOS 6.9 and all available updates

Details start here
https://wiki.contribs.org/Main_Page

To test your hardware to see if compatible with the underlying Linux version, download & install the appropriate CentOS version as listed above.
If you have problems installing CentOS then you are likely to have problems installing SME server, so in that case you may need to chose more compatible hardware.
Sometimes you can turn off advanced features in the BIOS as a workaround where there are limited compatibility issues, and/or disable onboard components that are known to be incompatible & use add on plug in expansion boards to perform those functions eg NIC, graphics, where suitable drivers are not available for the onboard product.
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #6 on: July 18, 2017, 08:31:28 AM »
I've installed V10 on a VM and used it for testing (php based) websites. All works very well as far as I can see.
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #7 on: July 18, 2017, 08:58:55 AM »
Multiple installs of i386 x86-64, Netinstall

Netsinstall iso is faulty - see bug submitted

x86-64 iso
Graphic install screen,
A minor annoyance but as I am doing multi installs etc its getting to me :-)

The graphical screen that appears during the copying of files preparing
for first reboot has what I presume is a "news" ticker at the bottom
that displays various features of Koozali SME..

The formatting of the window chops off the first 4-5 characters at the
left margin, ugly look..can someone have a look at fixing the formatting
please..its beginning to cause me issues :-)

Koozali branding/colours - OK
User Settings form - Koozali info at bottom of screen is obscured on left side, does not fit the form.

Boot screen graphic would be better slightly smaller say 15%, otherwise is OK

Not a fan of the mixed install modes, new graphic forms and then older anaconda installer. One or the other would be better.

First yum update worked OK, nss and sudo updates

Console
1 - OK
2 - OK
3 - doesn't work
4 - OK
5 - OK (not fully tested)
6 - can start elinks and login
7 - OK
8 - OK, backup to USB
9 - OK, restore from USB

System reboot immediately after restore - OK
 
Server-Manager
still testing/using but so far functionality is there - OK

Windows 10 or sme10 needs configs tinkering to get samba to play see links, can confirm all work:

https://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2016-November/204801.html
https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/21700-cannot-connect-samba-shares-centos7.html
https://www.tenforums.com/network-sharing/74699-creating-samba-share-windows-10-a.html

and now well on the way to 100mb+ of updates already :-(
« Last Edit: July 18, 2017, 09:01:12 AM by TerryF »
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #8 on: July 18, 2017, 04:50:48 PM »

and now well on the way to 100mb+ of updates already :-(

that is what happens with highly maintained OS. On Fedora 25, I get 400Mo every 2 weeks... and the more you wait, the less you have to download as usually this is the same packages that get updated over and over...

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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #9 on: July 18, 2017, 04:52:25 PM »
For testing purposes and as a service to our community, we could release a new alpha. Release notes would be limited, but service would be greatly enhanced.

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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #10 on: January 08, 2018, 12:14:26 AM »
Hi,

I installed and I was using SME10alpha3 with success.
Today after reading the problems that people were having issues with samba, I decided to update and samba stopped working, it runs but no one can access the shares.
I'm looking into the bugtrackers to see if it can be fixed:
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@400000005a52a48900f7fe54 tdb_mutex_open_ok[/var/lib/samba/smbprofile.tdb]: Can use mutexes only with MUTEX_LOCKING or NOLOCK
@400000005a52a489027e38c4 Failed to open /var/lib/samba/smbprofile.tdb

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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #11 on: January 08, 2018, 12:41:21 AM »
Hi,

I installed and I was using SME10alpha3 with success.
Today after reading the problems that people were having issues with samba, I decided to update and samba stopped working, it runs but no one can access the shares.
I'm looking into the bugtrackers to see if it can be fixed:
Code: [Select]
@400000005a52a48900f7fe54 tdb_mutex_open_ok[/var/lib/samba/smbprofile.tdb]: Can use mutexes only with MUTEX_LOCKING or NOLOCK
@400000005a52a489027e38c4 Failed to open /var/lib/samba/smbprofile.tdb

Forum discussion here, mostly out of our hands..

https://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,53323.0/topicseen.html
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #12 on: January 08, 2018, 04:39:37 AM »
Forum discussion here, mostly out of our hands..

https://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,53323.0/topicseen.html

I have been digging into this problem as I am getting Flask to work in the Primary ibay, works well, Flask uses Python 2.7 or higher, so 10 is much easier to install on than an altinstall on 9.2.

The Samba problem is a real bugger, the base alpha3 install works perfectly for my purpose. Once the updates are installed with yum with (yum update smeserver-support -y), Samba takes a dump.

My research seems to point to python-tevent, the most recent update of this has had problems in the centos forums.

I've tried to update with --exclude=python-tevent, to no avail due to dependencies,,, well this is just a test server, so no problem yet.

User since sme 5, love this system, chomping at the bit to see 10 in production. Many many thanks to the individuals that work on this.
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #13 on: January 08, 2018, 06:43:48 AM »
I have been digging into this problem as I am getting Flask to work in the Primary ibay, works well, Flask uses Python 2.7 or higher, so 10 is much easier to install on than an altinstall on 9.2.

The Samba problem is a real bugger, the base alpha3 install works perfectly for my purpose. Once the updates are installed with yum with (yum update smeserver-support -y), Samba takes a dump.

My research seems to point to python-tevent, the most recent update of this has had problems in the centos forums.

I've tried to update with --exclude=python-tevent, to no avail due to dependencies,,, well this is just a test server, so no problem yet.

User since sme 5, love this system, chomping at the bit to see 10 in production. Many many thanks to the individuals that work on this.

Sweet, looks to be a different issue, unfortunately...
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Re: Who gave SME Sever 10Alpha3 a test run?
« Reply #14 on: January 08, 2018, 03:55:22 PM »
Disclaimer : SME10 is still early alpha, so not for production. Every updates might, and will probably brake something, and it is not guaranteed an alpha system will be able to make it to final without a full reinstall because of major changes. Further more multiple issues including security issues might be present during this alpha phase.

Considering your issue with samba update, can you post the yum transaction? Samba should not update from upstream, and should be updated only from sme build packages. Should have been fixed here  https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10155 but some were missed so this is fixed there https://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=10428 so you need to update smeserver-suport from smeupdates-testing repo.


Your real solution : install python software collection version suitable for your software on SME 9.