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Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/

Offline DanB35

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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #30 on: April 26, 2015, 09:40:33 PM »
if my version is problem
How it work before that without any problem and more quickly
I didn't say that your version was the problem.  What I said (or at least suggested) was:
1.  There's a forum for SME 7.x, and this isn't it.  That forum is at http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/board,9.0.html.
2.  Even if you were using SME 8.x, this forum is for SME 8.x contribs (i.e., additional contributed software); your problem seems to be with the core system.
3.  SME 7.x was announced to be end of life over 2 years ago.  No further security updates or bug fixes have been released since that time.  You should upgrade to at least 8.x, and really to 9.0.  It's unlikely that this has anything to do with your immediate problems, but for the sake of your server's security you really should plan on making this change soon.
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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #31 on: April 26, 2015, 09:50:17 PM »
jonson

You said at the very beginning of this thread
"Hi guys in sme server sometimes i cannot send email over outlook using sme server 8.x"

& now you admit to us you are using sme7.5.

Come on stop lying & tell us the truth.
Your old version could have something to do with your problems, so please tell us correct technical information & stop the lies.
Your name swapping also adds confusion to your story, so post as one user please.

Support for sme 7.x is finished, it's a waste of our time talking to you unless you are running a currently supported sme version ie 8.1 or 9.
There are many techncial reasons & issues to do with software versions & underlying code changes & improvemenst & features etc, & we take those things into consideration when answering questions.

Please update to SME 8.1 or 9 immediately, & correct or delete your MX records
Please search before asking, an answer may already exist.
The Search & other links to useful information are at top of Forum.

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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #32 on: April 27, 2015, 06:52:57 AM »
Thank you for reply
you are true i will upgrade to 8.1
i m sorry i dont know there are difference between 8 and 7
after reading there are more difference
OK i will upgrade my system to 8 first

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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #33 on: April 27, 2015, 10:21:04 AM »
Thank you for reply
according to janet say
what i do now
remove mserver.altawi.com.sa
and keep altawi.com.sa in mx record
are this enough to send and recieve

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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #34 on: April 27, 2015, 12:24:03 PM »
jonson


....and change your SMTPSmartHost setting to point at your ISPs smtp server, as previously advised.
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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #35 on: April 27, 2015, 03:50:31 PM »
OK i will upgrade my system to 8 first
While you are at it, why not upgrade to SME 9.x 64-bit _after_ upgrading from 7 to 8 ?

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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #36 on: April 27, 2015, 03:57:21 PM »
While you are at it, why not upgrade to SME 9.x 64-bit _after_ upgrading from 7 to 8 ?
Perhaps because you can't upgrade from 8 to 9 without doing a backup and restore?
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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #37 on: April 27, 2015, 04:26:03 PM »
Thank you
for reply after i upgrade to 8.0 what i write in these fields in sme 8.0 settings
please help me in answering these question and i will close this thread
can you give me expected true setting
i guess that
*Secondary mail server(smtp.awalnet.net.sa)
*Address of Internet provider's mail server(smtp.awalnet.net.sa)
*mx record what will be(smtp.awalnet.net.sa) point to dns 212.93.192.5(dns of sme server)
*change domain from altawi.com.sa to smtp.awalnet.net.sa
are this ok settings



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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #38 on: April 27, 2015, 07:05:21 PM »
Only answer the the question above
and i will close thread

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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #39 on: April 27, 2015, 11:20:24 PM »
jonson

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.... i use sme server 7.5

It was recommended that BEFORE updating to sme 8.x, any sme 7.x server (eg 7.5) should be upgraded to sme7.6
So download the sme7.6 iso, burn the image to a CD, & then upgrade your existing server to v7.6 from the CD.
The various yum repositories have been closed or moved & it is tricky to do yum updates now to sme 7.x servers, so using CD is a much easier & quicker method.
There were important changes between v7.5 & v7.6 that better suit the upgrade to sme8.0 or 8.1.

Then you can download the sme8.1 iso, burn the image to CD/DVD, & upgrade the server to sme 8.1 from the CD.

All of that should work smoothly, but you may need to remove any custom templates & install newer version of any contribs you are using.
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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #40 on: April 27, 2015, 11:49:52 PM »
jonson

Have patience, no need to badger people for answers, we are asleep or at work in other parts of the world when you make your posts !

Firstly if you upgrade using CDs, then all your data & configuration settings will be retained. Please refer to my previous post re the most appropriate upgrade steps that I believe you should take ie via CD to sme7.6, then via CD to sme8.1.


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i guess that
*Secondary mail server(smtp.awalnet.net.sa)

NO
I suggest you do not create a secondary MX record as it is not really needed, other mail servers will queue messages & try to resend them if your sme server is temporarily offline (even for many hours).

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*Address of Internet provider's mail server(smtp.awalnet.net.sa)

YES
smtp.awalnet.net.sa
This is the SMTPSmartHost setting.


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*mx record what will be(smtp.awalnet.net.sa) point to dns 212.93.192.5(dns of sme server)

Your main MX record can be
altawi.com.sa
or
mail.altawi.com.sa
(note the latter name is automatically created on sme server)
& should point to your sme servers IP of
78.93.244.61


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*change domain from altawi.com.sa to smtp.awalnet.net.sa

If you are referring to your sme server main domain name, then
NO
Leave it as is,  or change it to
altawi.com.sa 

Also your servers local name can be
mserver
which it appears to be, so leave it as is, if that is correct.
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Re: Remote host said: 451 Upstream SMTP server not available/
« Reply #41 on: April 28, 2015, 06:18:26 AM »
OK thank you very much for reply