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Offline devtay

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2015, 02:47:51 PM »
I've requested a wiki account. Will see if it gets approved.

Thanks for the link. I'll check it out and try it on my next install. I actually thought about doing the mysql with phpmyadmin so that's a good point. Maybe on my next install I'll do it that way and have instructions for both then. I'll take some good notes and maybe a screen shot or two just in case I get a wiki account. Thanks for the advice.
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Offline stephdl

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2015, 09:47:10 PM »
Well if you have an issue for the wiki edit account, please let us know (after the next week, admins need also holidays)
See http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation
irc : Freenode #sme_server #sme-fr

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Offline Stefano

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #17 on: January 03, 2015, 11:05:17 AM »
I'm going to have to experiment with the upgrade process as I don't currently have a test server, just the production one.

virtualization is the answer.. just play with virtualbox on your laptop to get skilled..

Offline devtay

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2015, 09:33:07 PM »
You are right about that. I also got the approval for the wiki account so I'll get that started soon too. Thanks for the help.
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Offline Charles2008

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2015, 02:11:33 PM »
@devtay

What was the outcome of your investigations regarding OScommerce and SME9?

http://wiki.contribs.org/OsCommerce

Did you look at ZenCart or OpenCart at all? Supposedly a development of OSC.
http://www.zen-cart.com/
http://www.opencart.com/
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 02:13:41 PM by Charles2008 »

Offline devtay

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2015, 05:38:54 PM »
I was able to get it installed in an iBay but the permissions aren't right. My company decided to get a wordpress template made and we are installing the wordpress contrib to support it.

I pasted what I did into this message so you can see. It's a kind of shorthand so I can keep track of my projects. The lines with a - are from the install guide or steps that need to be performed.

The main thing I think that need to be addressed are the chmod statements. I got that information from the install guide but I don't believe it to be correct. I'd guess the support site has further recommendations as to what to chmod the files to, I just never got that far. When you check the security permissions in OsCommerce, everything is writeable which is not recommended. When the company decided to go to wordpress, I stopped working on it. I hope this helps out some at least.

ON SME 8

-Create iBay
iBay name: shop
Group: Admin
User access via file sharing or user ftp: Write = Group, Read = Everyone
Public access via web or anonymous ftp: entire internet (no password required)
Execution of dynamic content (CGI, PHP, SSI): Enabled
Force secure connections: Disabled

chmod 777 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/includes/configure.php
chmod 777 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/admin/includes/configure.php

adminsitrator name: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
administrator password: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

-Delete the /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/install directory.
Just delete the install directory out of the ibays

-Rename the Administration Tool directory located at /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/admin.
http://www.codemehappy.com/2010/11/how-to-rename-your-admin-folder/
http://www.codemehappy.com/2010/10/12-things-improve-oscommerce-based-admin-security/
Random name: xxxxxxxxxxxx
Rename folder to random name.
Edit the config.php file and replace paths with admin in them to the random directory

-Set the permissions on /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/includes/configure.php to 644 (or 444 if this file is still writable).
chmod 644 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/includes/configure.php

-Set the permissions on /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/admin/includes/configure.php to 644 (or 444 if this file is still writable).
chmod 644 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/Pr4stA9r/includes/configure.php

-Review the directory permissions on the Administration Tool -> Tools -> Security Directory Permissions page.

-The Administration Tool should be further protected using htaccess/htpasswd and can be set-up within the Configuration -> Administrators page.
chmod 777 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/xxxxxxxxx/.htaccess
chmod 777 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/xxxxxxxxx/.htpasswd_oscommerce
password: xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
chmod 664 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/xxxxxxxx/.htaccess
chmod 664 /home/e-smith/files/ibays/shop/html/xxxxxxxx/.htpasswd_oscommerce
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Offline devtay

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2015, 05:40:59 PM »
Did you look at ZenCart or OpenCart at all? Supposedly a development of OSC.
http://www.zen-cart.com/
http://www.opencart.com/

I did look at both options. They are good options, but I felt OsCommerce and Wordpress had more to offer as far as community support.
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Offline Charles2008

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2015, 08:42:06 PM »
Thanks for the response.

Yes, I agree that Wordpress is better supported and there are also a couple of good e-commerce add-ons. I read that 'WooCommerce' is good option for a simple store.

It is interesting to note, however, that OsCommerce is still the software behind a large number of high traffic websites. These i presume are heavily customised.

If one looks at the midsized e-commerce offerings outside of the big commercial offerings (e.g. ATG Commerce, IBM Websphere Commerce, Demandware) then Magento seemed to have come to dominate that space. However, according to a report by Tom Robertshaw in 2013 (that seems to have since disappeared from the web)  - 3/4 of all migrations that are taking place are -> Magento, but the other 1/4 of all migrations are away from Magento! These are existing site migrations remember, not start-ups.

The migrations away from Magento were largely to Zen, OSC and OpenCart.

This Robertshaw report predated the explosive growth of WooCommerce on the back of Wordpress success.

Here are some interesting reports:
http://trends.builtwith.com/shop
http://tomrobertshaw.net/2013/03/feb-2013-ecommerce-survey/
http://tomrobertshaw.net/2014/04/april-2014-ecommerce-survey/
https://askhivemind.com/blog/ecommerce-market-report-april-2015
« Last Edit: August 04, 2015, 11:04:29 PM by Charles2008 »

Offline ReetP

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #23 on: August 05, 2015, 05:44:05 PM »
Sometimes there are other considerations....

I currently use Zencart as when I started there was a plugin to vTiger, which we already used. I used vTiger as I knew the day would come when I also wanted to use Asterisk which interfaces with vtiger. That day is nearly here after 6 years :-)

Sometimes it is the marriage between solutions that is actually more important than any one item.

Zencart isn't that cutting edge - I think it is more based on stability and security (a bit like SME). The templating system is enough to drive a sane man mad, but it's a pretty solid system IMHO.

Also when I started using Zencart I think Magento was still very young, so I left well alone. I personally am not in to rapid release schedules. 99.9% of new features I never need. I am happy to leave it to beta testers, and gullible people :-)

Also, the more popular they system, the more hackers are interested. Wordpress seems to get hammered continuously. I know the core system is pretty good, but the plugins are often the weak link. I also don't believe you can make a silk purse out of a sows ear - Wordpress is good at what it does, which is blogging. Trying to use an add-on to make it something it wasn't - e.g an ecommerce site - is easy but potentially fatal. Use a tool designed for the job.

Certainly worth installing and hacking about with each system to see what it is like though.

All IMHO of course !

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Offline Stefano

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #24 on: August 05, 2015, 05:54:20 PM »
I'd like to hear something about prestashop..

installed with no issue in SME and in a plain centos.. quite difficult to understand at the beginning and need some db tweaks to work smoothly and fast.

on the other side, I never managed to install vtiger last version (IIRC 6) on SME9.. never.. any hint is welcome.

Offline Charles2008

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Re: OsCommerce
« Reply #25 on: August 05, 2015, 06:43:50 PM »
@Stefano
I would also like to know more about PrestShop.

I will start a new thread (and link here) and see what we get:
http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,51861.msg264484.html#msg264484
« Last Edit: August 05, 2015, 06:46:51 PM by Charles2008 »