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HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation

Offline Orest

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HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« on: August 16, 2014, 05:47:38 PM »
Hello I am searching for a good machine to install SME Server 8.1 .

I have three options:

1. HP xw4300 workstation
3. Hp xw4400 workstation
2. Dell Precision 390 workstation

Which one should I buy?
If there is another option that I should consider please let me know?

Every replay is appreciated,
Thnx!

Offline janet

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2014, 05:57:05 PM »
Orest

You really need to check the motherboard, chipset & CPU to see they are compatible with CentOS
For sme8.1 = CentOS 5.10

You should also really assess that the new hardware will be OK with sme9, as that has been released already & users should start upgrading to sme9 = CentOS 6.5

Go to the CentOS web site & look up HCL hardware compatibility list, & ask your supplier re compatibility, they should be able to tell you.
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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2014, 06:08:53 PM »
Thank you for the quick replay!

Your info is very useful, and I'll do as you suggested!

Have a nice day!
Orest

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #3 on: August 16, 2014, 09:04:08 PM »
If You like HP, Proliant is your bet choice for a server; furthermore they're usualy 100% compatible with RedHat/Centos/ESXi.
In my last install I focused myself on ESXi 5.5 using one or more SME virtualized.
Maybe they're cheaper than a Workstation-Class PC.

Nicola
Consulente di Smeserver.it -  Soluzioni e supporto su Sme server in Italia.

Offline Orest

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #4 on: August 16, 2014, 09:21:07 PM »
I checked the Red Hat Certificated Hardware, and HP xw4400 Workstation is certificated for version 5.1 so I think SME 8.1 will run OK on this machine?

As for SME 9 I don't know what do say, maybe it would be best not to hurry myself and find a machine that will allow me to upgrade to SME 9 later?

Any suggestions?

Thank you!

Offline janet

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2014, 01:30:58 AM »
Orest

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As for SME 9 I don't know what do say, maybe it would be best not to hurry myself and find a machine that will allow me to upgrade to SME 9 later

Yes I agree.

There are many advantages to move to sme 9, all development will be focussed on sme9, nothing new will happen for sme 8.x.
We just have to wait for any add on contribs you may use to be released, but the sme 9 server OS is OK to use now.
« Last Edit: August 17, 2014, 01:35:40 AM by janet »
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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #6 on: August 17, 2014, 05:16:05 AM »
Orest, I strongly suggest you to buy a "server" machine, not a "workstation" one..

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #7 on: August 17, 2014, 04:57:28 PM »
I have three options:

1. HP xw4300 workstation
3. Hp xw4400 workstation
2. Dell Precision 390 workstation

I agree with Stefano - none of the above. Buy a server class machine. A lot of people here seem happy with the HP microservers.

Offline engdev

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #8 on: August 18, 2014, 11:20:02 PM »
Yes I can vouch for HP micro & ML servers, work well & good value. you can check compatibility here:
http://h17007.www1.hp.com/us/en/enterprise/servers/supportmatrix/redhat_linux.aspx#.U_Jskx69KSM

Offline Orest

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2014, 11:01:34 AM »
Hello,

Thank you all for the replays!

I found a HP Prolinat ML110 G5, I checked the HP certified CentOS list of hardware this machine does not exist in the list of HP, maybe cuz it is old.
Meanwhile in RHEL certificated Hardware, ML110 G5 is certificated only for Server 5.x .

The cost of this machine is $250.
Should I buy?

Thank you

 

Offline engdev

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #10 on: August 20, 2014, 11:40:45 AM »
Yes ML110 G5 is hardware from circa 5 years ago.
My advice is to follow Janet's recommendations in post 2 & purchase a server which is compatible with SME 9.

Offline Stefano

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #11 on: August 20, 2014, 11:52:05 AM »
orest, follow Chiarlie's advice and take a look at microserver..

meanwhile, please tell us what the server should do, how many users etc..

thank you

Offline Orest

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #12 on: August 20, 2014, 12:01:47 PM »
Hi,

OK I will search for microservers.

I am a student, and I want the server as Home Server, for the Degree Project. It won't have more than 5 users. So basically, for the moment I need a machine to learn and to practice the about SME, and if I get skilled with this software, I have plans to implement it in a hosting company in Albania, where I work.

Thank you all,

With Respect,
Orest




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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #13 on: August 20, 2014, 12:05:18 PM »
so all you need is a hw to make some experiments..

well, I think you don't need a real server in this case but even a old pc with at least 1Gb ram will work..
use it as your "production" server

for every kind of deep test, use virtual machines..


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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #14 on: August 20, 2014, 02:41:07 PM »
well, I think you don't need a real server in this case but even a old pc with at least 1Gb ram will work..
use it as your "production" server

You are *very strongly* advised to ensure that you have two hard drives bound in a RAID1 pair.

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #15 on: August 20, 2014, 10:50:58 PM »
I have found the HP Proliant Microservers (N40L and N54L)  run very nicely with SME 9.0
Cheap, too.
Capacity for 4 HDD. I have one 2 HDD RAID 1 and one 4HDD RAID5. Both have 4Gb RAM

Cheers  :smile:
Ian
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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2014, 11:01:18 PM »
Orest

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I am searching for a good machine to install SME Server 8.1
......find a machine that will allow me to upgrade to SME 9 later?

You should start using SME9.0 immediately rather than playing qround with sme8.1.

SME9.0 final was released on 30 June 2014 & is using CentOS 6.5 which is a better platform to use
http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:9.0

...and as Charlie says, your minimal configuration should be a 2 disk software RAID1 array (software RAID1 as provided by SME server)
« Last Edit: August 20, 2014, 11:02:51 PM by janet »
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Offline Orest

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Re: HP xw4300 workstation vs Dell Precision 390 workstation
« Reply #17 on: September 19, 2014, 11:12:50 AM »
Hello,

I used vmware workstation 10 on my HP pavilion dv6 6150sl to install SME 9 and every thing was OK, I installed configured and connected to internet, now I can access my virtual server remotely from my local network.
Virtual machine parameters are:

HDD: Raid 1 20G
CPU: 2 processors, 2 cores for each
Network adapter: bridge
RAM: 2G

I want to thank you all for you suggestions and replays!

I need some help with DDNS since I have dynamic IP address but for this I am going to make another post on SME 9 forum.

I wish luck for all of you!
Orest