Topic: SME Server 9.0

[TerryF]

Its DONE....thanks all

SME Server 9.0 Release Notes
============================

28th June 2014

The SME Server development team is pleased to announce the release of
SME Server 9.0 which is based on CentOS 6.5.

Bug reports and reports of potential bugs should be raised in the bug
tracker (and only there, please);

     http://bugs.contribs.org/

Download
========

You can download SME Server 9.0 from
http://mirror.contribs.org/smeserver/releases/9/iso/x86_64/
or for other methods see http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Download

Please note it may take up to 48 hours for mirrors to finish syncing,
during this time you may experience problems.

[stephdl]

Yes.....and now....go to sme10

[TerryF]

Yes.....and now....go to sme10

hahahahah, bloody hell Stephdl you are a glutton for punishment

Lets wait until CentOS has 7 out

[Fumetto]

One question: I have a number of servers SME8 that I should upgrade to version 9. Can I restore from a backup made on NAS (the backup was done using the backup  on workstation feature) or "correct" restore can only be run from a USB backup?

[TerryF]

Workstation backup will restore fine, you just have to setup the new SME9 with the settings to access the workstation backup file..

[CharlieBrady]

One question: I have a number of servers SME8 that I should upgrade to version 9.

I don't think there is any pressing reason for you to upgrade to version 9, unless you have new hardware which doesn't work with sme8.

[TerryF]

Just an aside, it is those small points in time that pass quickly that make the effort and friendships worthwhile.

http://distrowatch.com/

[Fumetto]

I don't think there is any pressing reason for you to upgrade to version 9, unless you have new hardware which doesn't work with sme8.

When was released version 8 the 7.6 version has become obsolete and so no more updates ... I think that even with the release of version 9 will no longer be issued updates for 8, is not it?

[TerryF]

When was released version 8 the 7.6 version has become obsolete and so no more updates ... I think that even with the release of version 9 will no longer be issued updates for 8, is not it?

SME8 based on CentOS 5.#, CentOS EOL, you have a few years, http://wiki.centos.org/About/Product

[Fumetto]

This is good news for me ... thank you very much

[DanB35]

Workstation backup will restore fine, you just have to setup the new SME9 with the settings to access the workstation backup file..

How is this done?  My fresh SME 9 installation says "Insert removable media containing your backup file, then hit the enter key."  When I do hit the enter key, it responds with "no removable media or device found."  It doesn't prompt at any point for network settings.

[TerryF]

How is this done?  My fresh SME 9 installation says "Insert removable media containing your backup file, then hit the enter key."  When I do hit the enter key, it responds with "no removable media or device found."  It doesn't prompt at any point for network settings.

Firstly are you using a VM or hardware, if hardware what hardware..

and we are talking about Workstation Backup and restore as configured and used from the server manager, I think you are describing the restore option that is available from the console.

[DanB35]

It's hardware, a few-year-old AMD system, 8 GB of RAM and a 400 GB hard drive.  I'm installing on that system to test 9.0 (particularly the part about how it has to have a fresh install and restore from backup, rather than an upgrade in place).  I have a "workstation" backup in an NFS share on my NAS server.

When booting a fresh, unconfigured installation of SME 9.0, the first question it asks is "do you wish to restore from backup?"  When answered in the affirmative, the next two prompts are as I posted--insert the removable media, and then no removable media found.  Does the first-boot configuration not support restoring from a network backup, but only from attached storage?  That seems suboptimal.

Is it then the case that I should continue through the configuration (not restoring from backup), and then restore through the server-manager (presumably overwriting the configuration, root password, etc. I just set up)?

[TerryF]

It's hardware, a few-year-old AMD system, 8 GB of RAM and a 400 GB hard drive.  I'm installing on that system to test 9.0 (particularly the part about how it has to have a fresh install and restore from backup, rather than an upgrade in place).  I have a "workstation" backup in an NFS share on my NAS server.

When booting a fresh, unconfigured installation of SME 9.0, the first question it asks is "do you wish to restore from backup?"  When answered in the affirmative, the next two prompts are as I posted--insert the removable media, and then no removable media found.  Does the first-boot configuration not support restoring from a network backup, but only from attached storage?  That seems suboptimal.

Is it then the case that I should continue through the configuration (not restoring from backup), and then restore through the server-manager (presumably overwriting the configuration, root password, etc. I just set up)?

The restore from backup option at the time of install is for a backup that has been done from the console, NOT a workstation backup.

To use a workstation backup complete the install of SME9, enter server manager, configure the workstation backup to match the old server setup, restore from the backup.

or do a console backup on the old server and use that at the time of install on your SME install

[Charles2008]

In both of these different restore from back-up types:
(1) Console restore from backup, and
(2) Server-manager workstation back-up (restore)

...  am I right in thinking that any contribs and i-bay apps have to be pre-installed (or installed later)?

[TerryF]

It is preferable to carry out the restore to a clean server install and then reinstall any contribs.

As it is SME9 has very few contribs that have been morphed from SME8

[DanB35]

Looks like, despite having NFS as a config option for the workstation backup, the nfs-utils package isn't part of the SME 9.0-RELEASE installation, making it impossible to mount NFS shares.  I've filed bug # 8479 (http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8479) on this.

[TerryF]

See wiki entry http://wiki.contribs.org/Backup_with_dar#NFS although its for SME8 would think it also applies to SME9

[TerryF]

In particular the discussion in this Bug http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=7006

[DanB35]

Certainly, it's easy enough to install nfs-utils using yum.  At least, it would be, if yum were working, though I suspect the problem here is just that the mirrors aren't up to date on the new release yet:

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[root@sme-test ~]# yum install nfs-utils
Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, smeserver
Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile
 * base: mirror.itc.virginia.edu
 * smeaddons: mirror.canada.pialasse.com
 * smeextras: mirror.canada.pialasse.com
 * smeos: mirror.canada.pialasse.com
 * smeupdates: mirror.canada.pialasse.com
 * updates: mirror.unl.edu
http://mirror.canada.pialasse.com/releases/testing/9/smeaddons/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found"
Trying other mirror.
http://www.mirrorservice.org/sites/mirror.contribs.org/smeserver/releases/testing/9/smeaddons/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found"
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.pialasse.com/releases/testing/9/smeaddons/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found"
Trying other mirror.
http://sme-mirror.firewall-services.com/releases/testing/9/smeaddons/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found"
Trying other mirror.
http://mirror.chiropratique.org/releases/testing/9/smeaddons/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found"
Trying other mirror.
http://smeserver.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net/smeserver/releases/testing/9/smeaddons/x86_64/repodata/repomd.xml: [Errno 14] PYCURL ERROR 22 - "The requested URL returned error: 404 Not Found"
Trying other mirror.
Error: Cannot retrieve repository metadata (repomd.xml) for repository: smeaddons. Please verify its path and try again
[root@sme-test ~]#

The problem is that a feature in the base installation simply doesn't work without the installation of additional software--that's a bug in my book.

[TerryF]

and that's why the Bug you raised was the right thing to do, I have had no probs installing nfs-utils just now including the portmap link as described in the SME8 bug..

[stephdl]

I don't think there is any pressing reason for you to upgrade to version 9, unless you have new hardware which doesn't work with sme8.

I would disagree and this is why

- Included softwares in sme8 repositories are really old , I have in mind dovecot which is used for sogo. Sogo now use dovecot 2 and the version available for sme8 is dovecot 1.1. Of course you can do a hack but it is not safe.

- There are some new features in ibays for example with a new panel available with a contrib smeserver-webhosting...specific to sme9

-Versions of sqlite, python, mysql are more recent, and you can simply install PHP55 or PHP54 (need to be tested a bit). These versions could bring new contribs not realizable with sme8.

Of course, maybe we can find other reasons to keep or to leave sme8

[guest22]

I don't think there is any pressing reason for you to upgrade to version 9, unless you have new hardware which doesn't work with sme8.

There is if you are using SME9 as a VM on a visualization platform and you care about resources. It is much less resource intense then SME8.

using ~2% of assigned resources on SME9 vs ~8-10% usage of assigned resources on SME8. Exact same VM machine

[TerryF]

Hi DanB35

In a previous post, not this thread, you describing doing a SME8 backup to a cifs share on a NAS, which then stopped working and subsequently used NFS on a SME8 box.

Of interest was your mentioning having tried NFS previously and that it had failed but now worked, which suggest that box has had the nfs-utils etc installed.

It would be good to post those details in the Bug as well.

[TerryF]

Must've been lucky yesterday, and managed to get the nfs-util from the one and only mirror that has the correct dirs. listed..

Thanks Daniel..

Today NADA..  

[nicolatiana]

1) "smeaddons" is still unavailable in mirrors:

sme-mirror.firewall-services.com
mirror.pialasse.com
mirror.chiropratique.org
mirror.canada.pialasse.com
smeserver.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net

2) I've upgraded (yum update) an exixting RC1/32; RC1 is still showed as current version in console.

Nicola

[stephdl]

probably time to open a bug nicolatiana, please do it

confirmed smeaddons is an empty directory and confirmed that after a full upgrade the file /etc/redhat-release is always 'SME Server release 9.0rc1'

[nicolatiana]

http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8481

Nicola

[nicolatiana]

Maybe a further yum update should be issued.

Nicola

[idp_qbn]

If we really have released SME 9, shouldn't an announcement be made in the Announcements section? It still has SME9 RC1 as the latest version.
Cheers
Ian

[TerryF]

The world knows http://distrowatch.com/?newsid=08508

Need someone with the power to post in announcements.

[stephdl]

I don't have rights and people who are allowed to do this are on holidays, well merited....but if you can make noise on social network(outside of contribs.org), please do it.

[TerryF]

Which raises another sore point stephdl, too FEW cooks spoil the broth, the sooner its sorted out the better because just now there is a an anchor or two holding things back.

[TerryF]

Issues with mirrors appears to be on the mend

http://mirrorlist.contribs.org/mirrorlist/smeos-9

# version = 9, repo = smeos
http://mirror.absolutnet.de/releases/9/smeos/$basearch/
http://mirror.canada.pialasse.com/releases/9/smeos/$basearch/
http://mirror.chiropratique.org/releases/9/smeos/$basearch/
http://mirror.pialasse.com/releases/9/smeos/$basearch/
http://sme-mirror.firewall-services.com/releases/9/smeos/$basearch/
http://mirror.hakkers.com/releases/9/smeos/$basearch/
http://smeserver.bhs.mirrors.ovh.net/smeserver/releases/9/smeos/$basearch/

I believe Ian is back on deck, superman can only do so much, the system knew to start behaving itself, thanks Ian..

[stephdl]

Which raises another sore point stephdl, too FEW cooks spoil the broth, the sooner its sorted out the better because just now there is a an anchor or two holding things back.

Sometimes the Australian is really a curious idiom , hard to decipher

Yep the engine has  restarted but I believe It is shad who has worked behind the shadow of the buildsys

[TerryF]

Sometimes the Australian is really a curious idiom , hard to decipher

Yep the engine has  restarted but I believe It is shad who has worked behind the shadow of the buildsys

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