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Updating the SAIL ISO

Re: Updating the SAIL ISO
« Reply #15 on: December 21, 2014, 10:06:53 AM »
Maybe you should be asking the questions here: http://www.sailpbx.com/sail_forum/index.php

Wonder what the point of that is? Surely it would be better off on here where I assume they would get more knowledgable people with SME experience?

Oh well, I'm just a pleb who relies on others to develop such software.
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Re: Updating the SAIL ISO
« Reply #16 on: December 21, 2014, 11:12:48 AM »
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So is this the end?

Perhaps a word of clarification is needed here.   SAIL is an application, much like any other.   The current rpm (4.0.0-127) mandates no Digium dependencies.  However, in order to run a PBX you'll likely need to install Asterisk and perhaps DAHDI.  Installing these components is your responsibility, in exactly the same way as it is to provide Linux itself.  Kernel/dahdi driver dependencies in Asterisk are well known and it doesn't matter where you run Asterisk (SME, EL6, whatever) you will run into these issues and you must ensure that a kernel driver exists for dahdi (from digium) for the kernel you intend to install or upgrade to.   For that reason, Asterisk has never been plug-and-play in the sense that you can run a yum update and assume that Asterisk will work after the fact.  It's also one of the reasons why many Redhat based projects recommend Asterisk dahdi compile from scratch rather than using rpms.   In the end the choice is yours.  We (saildevs) don't control Asterisk, dahdi or the kmods.  Neither do we decide which kernel versions the SME team will release nor whether there will exist a corresponding kmod from digium.  We can only say that if Asterisk and dahdi are executing correctly on your box then SAIL can generate the asterisk config files to help manage the PBX.

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Maybe you should be asking the questions here: http://www.sailpbx.com/sail_forum/index.php

Wow, you spotted that quick!.   We only put that up a few days ago.   It is a new forum as an adjunct to this one.  We put it up because there were some rumblings here when members posted non-SME related questions.  We're fine with that, we are only guests here ourselves and we will always be grateful to the SME community for their kind assistance in providing this forum topic.  However, the new forum does exist and you can use it, not use it, as you wish.

   




         
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Re: Updating the SAIL ISO
« Reply #17 on: December 21, 2014, 01:06:00 PM »
Nope no clarification needed, was aware of all these things, having been fighting with it on and off for a few years. The point I was making was:- "Nearly all the documentation, on here and on the sail site are a mess, they refer to old packages and even older instructions. I really wished I had the knowledge to do an up to date write up."

Now that in itself is not really your responsibility, as you say you just write the app. But where as a normal pleb end user do I get install instructions that are valid for today.

I can understand your building a new site, I have seen the comments and winced, and if I was in your shoes I would be less than impressed too.

Best wishes to all on contribs, and to the Devs for sail /sark. Hope you all have a fantastic xmas and a happy and prosperous new year.

Paul.
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Re: Updating the SAIL ISO
« Reply #18 on: December 21, 2014, 08:28:20 PM »
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Nearly all the documentation, on here and on the sail site are a mess...

Documentation is a bear to keep up to date.  However, you can help.   If you find something specifically inaccurate or out of date then tell us and we'll do something about it.   We can't do much with a general statement but we can and will work with specifics.

As to comments that may have made you wince; Greg Zartmann posted the collective view here

http://forums.contribs.org/index.php/topic,51180.0.html

However, the fact remains that this is an open forum so if someone wants to make a fool of themselves by violating the rules then it's probably best to simply ignore them. 

Merry Christmas to you too Paul

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Re: Updating the SAIL ISO
« Reply #19 on: February 03, 2015, 03:54:03 PM »
Maybe you should be asking the questions here: http://www.sailpbx.com/sail_forum/index.php

I did finally get round to doing just that. From an earlier post they did offer to correct anything in the docs that was not correct. If I really knew 100% what I was doing, then perhaps I might have responded. I am currently still stick on having a little HP microserver not boot with the old 308.*.* kernel, so never managed to install from the suggested routine on the SAIL site.

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Re: Updating the SAIL ISO
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2015, 07:40:37 PM »
Hi

I have removed the out-of-date installation references you refer to from the sail site. 

With regard to your HP server, my advice would be to install vanilla sme 8.x and compile asterisk/dahdi from sources against a kernel that does execute correctly on that box. 

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