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Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« on: May 09, 2013, 01:53:02 AM »
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Re: New Koozali Logo Concepts
« Reply #1 on: May 09, 2013, 02:30:31 AM »
gzartman

Is this official from the koozali foundation ?
Are they the only choices ?
I would have liked one with a map of the world (a globe) in one of the o's of koozali (with the all of the world embracing implications of that)
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #2 on: May 09, 2013, 02:38:45 AM »
Yes, this is for the official logo.

Have a look at the logo brief located here:  http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation_Design_Brief

A world graphic as an "O" would certainly look really nice, but it would be difficult to display in many situations such as monochrome and small versions of our logo.

Keep in mind, most logos are pretty darn simple. 

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #3 on: May 09, 2013, 07:39:53 AM »
I will like something like option 2 (it reflects somehow infinity) but with the rainbow blue like in option 5
in BW/grey it will be nice to have a grey variation

It is not possible to "combine" any more?

also for me that with accent on only one O feels like it split the logo in 2 words
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #4 on: May 09, 2013, 09:20:47 AM »
Option 2 for me, maybe in blue because I don't like too much the green  :D

The graphical designer has done a great job with these proposals and all are really nice.
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #5 on: May 09, 2013, 01:00:21 PM »
Option 2 is quite flexible in that you can vary the colour if we had things like Koozali SME Server Home or Koozali SME Server Business editions

You need a keyline colour, and then allow variations.

Note it will also easily convert to monochrome (black and white) and you could also JUST use the 'OO' as a logo in it's own right.

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #6 on: May 09, 2013, 08:05:19 PM »
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Note it will also easily convert to monochrome (black and white) and you could also JUST use the 'OO' as a logo in it's own right.

i like this idea. :D

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #7 on: May 09, 2013, 08:52:26 PM »
No. 2 iz a kool  :-D
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #8 on: May 10, 2013, 12:27:58 AM »
No. 2 iz a kool  :-D
My 1st Scalextric cct was a figure-of-8 but then
grew to fill the entire attic of my childhood house.

LOL :-)

Scalextric - you lucky boy. I had a wind up railway set :-)
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #9 on: May 10, 2013, 09:27:52 PM »
No more vote...come on guys :p
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2013, 10:49:54 AM »
No more vote...come on guys :p

ditto guys...there are 30 000 SME server on earth...i want to see 30 000 vote
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #11 on: May 13, 2013, 12:59:46 PM »
done :)

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2013, 12:01:24 AM »
#2 is the best, IMO, but #5 is a close second.

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2013, 06:55:29 PM »
I believe if you want more votes. Set a deadline date for submissions. Some people may be waiting for more submissions before they vote. Closed down submissions, and then open up voting. And a more noticeable way to vote may help. Never knew this was here on the forums until I made a submission. Just my thought. I am in love with SME (Koozali) so don't beat me up.
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2013, 11:25:41 AM »
More vote please....if you do not you will regret!  :cool:
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2013, 12:03:18 PM »
i can't believe that after 827 views of this thread that there have only been 60 votes in total.
Either people don't like any of the options or really don't care!


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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2013, 12:25:30 PM »
>>Either people don't like any of the options or really don't care!
Your logic may be somewhat flawed and, yes, I have voted.
The ones that have voted already probably really care. So the
quality of the existing cadre of votes might be 'considered'.
A smaller volume of considered votes is more appropriate than
a larger volume of random button pushing voter conscriptees?
Also some of the apparently non-voting viewers may be robots.

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2013, 11:56:17 PM »
i can't believe that after 827 views of this thread that there have only been 60 votes in total.
Either people don't like any of the options or really don't care!
It is a sad reality but Sme Server has lost a lot of users and its popularity is not well too. When i see people in France who don't know anything about Sme Server, i'm wondering if we haven't missed something.
We have to make noise outside of contribs to wake up all who are sleeping and find new blood.
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2013, 11:58:25 PM »
Well, it's apparent to me that all the contenders are not in. I submitted my own logo, and of course, I want to vote for my own. Unless there was a preelimination process, I believe a lot of people are waiting to know that nothing else will be submitted. I'm assuming you can only vote once, as I would not know because I haven't voted yet
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2013, 12:52:01 AM »
Well, it's apparent to me that all the contenders are not in. I submitted my own logo, and of course, I want to vote for my own. Unless there was a preelimination process, I believe a lot of people are waiting to know that nothing else will be submitted. I'm assuming you can only vote once, as I would not know because I haven't voted yet
Yes you are right and i have sent a mail immediately to greg who administer the poll to add your logo.
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #20 on: May 21, 2013, 07:12:46 AM »
On Line, please vote for it

http://www.zartman.net/koozali_logo/images/koozali_test_1.png

newburns stay tuned it is clear that we will need a graphical designer near of us.
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #21 on: May 21, 2013, 09:43:16 AM »
Since Koozali means "reborn" what is more reborn than Phoenix?
How about this very rough logo concept of SME Reborn??

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #22 on: May 21, 2013, 09:55:23 AM »
i like this type of idea, the phoenix is bit too close to Mozilla, but how about keeping the SME and doing the same with a Linux Penguin instead of the phoenix

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #23 on: May 21, 2013, 02:17:51 PM »
To All

With apologies to the original designers & I do appreciate the work & effort you have put into this.

I just wanted to point out that option 2 with dots inside the o's, can look like a pair of womens boobs.
For the Foundation & community members to choose & use a design that can be misinterpreted in this way is not a good idea.
The surprising thing is that I did vote for option 2 myself.
I think the creating of this design & the fact that it has the most votes at this stage, could well be a freudian slip on the part of the designers & voters too !

I suggest/request Option 2 be removed as a contender.

I would also suggest that none of those options displayed is a really good design, & perhaps that is why there have not been very many votes.
More work is needed on better designs in my opinion.

I have made one with a world globe replacing both o's in koozali, & will upload it when I get some free time, just quite busy at present.
Also thinking along the lines of just letters
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ksme
and even just the letter k on a world globe
Will try to create something that looks OK for both of those too.
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #24 on: May 21, 2013, 06:19:10 PM »
To All

With apologies to the original designers & I do appreciate the work & effort you have put into this.

I just wanted to point out that option 2 with dots inside the o's, can look like a pair of womens boobs.
For the Foundation & community members to choose & use a design that can be misinterpreted in this way is not a good idea.
The surprising thing is that I did vote for option 2 myself.
I think the creating of this design & the fact that it has the most votes at this stage, could well be a freudian slip on the part of the designers & voters too !

I suggest/request Option 2 be removed as a contender.

Interesting observation.  I suppose it is all in the eyes of the beholder.  Kind of like looking up in the sky and seeing different figures in the clouds.

In any event, unless there is an outcry to remove this option as offensive, I see no reason it shouldn't be a contender.


I would also suggest that none of those options displayed is a really good design, & perhaps that is why there have not been very many votes.
More work is needed on better designs in my opinion.

I have made one with a world globe replacing both o's in koozali, & will upload it when I get some free time, just quite busy at present.
Also thinking along the lines of just letters
eg
ksme
and even just the letter k on a world globe
Will try to create something that looks OK for both of those too.

You, or anyone else for that matter, are free to submit design options.  These designs need to address the logo brief located here:  http://wiki.contribs.org/Koozali_Foundation_Design_Brief   Complex logo graphics simply won't work for our logo needs across all media; so things like globes, unless they are just spheres, are not acceptable design options.

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #25 on: May 21, 2013, 06:38:58 PM »
I just wanted to point out that option 2 with dots inside the o's, can look like a pair of womens boobs.
For the Foundation & community members to choose & use a design that can be misinterpreted in this way is not a good idea.

Funny because me i see eyes with glasses....and our new slogan : koozaly is the linux who helps you to see clear!!!

are you Kidding ?  :grin:

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #26 on: May 21, 2013, 06:40:21 PM »
Funny because me i see eyes with glasses....and our new slogan : koozaly is the linux who help you to see clear!!!

are you Kidding ?  :grin:
Is that the slogan? We may not want to say Clear
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #27 on: May 21, 2013, 06:41:17 PM »
I was kidding newburns....french joke
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #28 on: May 21, 2013, 06:45:59 PM »
So... in all honesty. What are we really looking for in a logo?
Just text? A mix of 3 and 5?
I plan on doing more concepts, but I can't seem to get good direction.
I'm no designer, but there's not a lot of input, so I may win.
Do we really want to see globes?
Maybe two globes cut in half? http://www.hipkiss.org/data/maps/the-admiralty_nories-navigation_1877_the-world-in-two-hemispheres_2000_1138_600.jpg
Something like "Your world connected" with a Linux Penguin theme?

I just need some concrete ideas. I want to win
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #29 on: May 21, 2013, 06:58:22 PM »
The logo need to be simple, we need the name with it but i thought that we have to get a picture which is our identity. As if we see the ubuntu logo or the redhat logo without their name we could recognize them. it is for that the logo n2 is so good i can see it with or without text
I have tried to work on several concept with a french graphical designer and we have also same ideas about the symbol of infinity but greg has beaten us on the line :p

the second idea we get was to get the infinity symbol with fire on logo as symbol of phenix, we could try to put 2 wings above the symbol, this could be attempted...

But a logo need before to be simple and always i return on the number 2
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #30 on: May 21, 2013, 08:11:54 PM »
boobs, we definitely don't want our new foundation to be a boob job, the ladies in my office thought it looks like glasses.

following the posts, simple is good, but what is wrong with the existing logo, it is well know already, just add Koozali name to the top or bottom. 

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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #31 on: May 21, 2013, 09:57:38 PM »
boobs, we definitely don't want our new foundation to be a boob job, the ladies in my office thought it looks like glasses.

following the posts, simple is good, but what is wrong with the existing logo, it is well know already, just add Koozali name to the top or bottom.

The logo is not really own by us as you have a company in Utah who had registered the logo and the name of smeserver.com. It is not a huge issue but we wouldn't have the problem one day.
Moreover the name has changed several time during 14 years, as it was e-smith, mitel (always used) and now this one if the community wants it and works for it.

If we compare with zentyal or clearOS our contenders they have changed their name too

ebox before for zentyal
clarkconnect before for clearOS

Users follow the product, never the name...
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #32 on: May 23, 2013, 03:46:33 AM »
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boobs, we definitely don't want our new foundation to be a boob job, the ladies in my office thought it looks like glasses.

That is the problem with that design, it is ambiguous & can easily be misinterpreted for boobs or glasses (I assume you mean spectacles) or even something else, depending on the viewers perception. A good logo should not be ambiguous & certainly not be able to be visually interpreted in a way some people could find offensive.
Consider the many different cultural & language groups that koozali sme server is used in, ranging from wealthy western businesses to poor bangladeshi, afghani or asian community groups having different religious & cultural values.

The infinity symbol of option 2 looks OK to me, maybe just remove the two dots from the middle of the o's, as that will remove most of the ambiguity.
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Re: Official Koozali Foundation Logo Concepts
« Reply #33 on: May 23, 2013, 11:15:13 PM »
boobs, we definitely don't want our new foundation to be a boob job, the ladies in my office thought it looks like glasses.

following the posts, simple is good, but what is wrong with the existing logo, it is well know already, just add Koozali name to the top or bottom.

I may be dating myself, but I saw a couple of magnetic data reels.  To avoid offense, I agree it would probably be best to remove the dots.  Or, if anyone likes the tape idea, make them smaller and add a few "spokes" like on the reels here: http://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/apollo/apollo_tapes.html