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Offline madadam

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Mailing list managers
« on: August 09, 2012, 07:07:36 AM »
I need a mailing list manager such as ezmlm or mailman. While both apparently work on SME 8 according to this wiki page:

http://wiki.contribs.org/SME8.0_Contribs_QA

I've found that both have problems.

Can people recommend one package over the other and have you had any success in installing these packages in SME 8?

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Offline Stefano

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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #1 on: August 09, 2012, 09:29:33 AM »
could you please tell us the "problems"  you are referring to?

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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #2 on: August 09, 2012, 09:34:44 AM »
could you please tell us the "problems"  you are referring to?

Sure thing!

Mailman is the most serious and actually documented on the above wiki page - it causes the SME 8 bootstrap-console to hang after a reboot to apply system changes.

Ezmlm is just minor cosmetic problems with all the pages in the server-manager. It's missing icons and other styling information which means some headings don't appear on their own lines etc. I'm sure these problems could be easily resolved.

I'm sure mailman can be fixed, but if ezmlm does the job just as well that might be the easier fix!

Adam
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Offline janet

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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #3 on: August 09, 2012, 12:37:37 PM »
madadam

I  have smeserver-ezmlm-web installed as per
http://wiki.contribs.org/Ezmlm
and it's working OK, and appearance is OK in sme 8.0 server manager, updated recently.
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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #4 on: August 09, 2012, 01:07:54 PM »
madadam

I  have smeserver-ezmlm-web installed as per
http://wiki.contribs.org/Ezmlm
and it's working OK, and appearance is OK in sme 8.0 server manager, updated recently.

Hi Mary,

If I install it again and still have the same problem I will post some screenshots. The problems I experienced earlier were only minor cosmetic problems but it did make it a bit difficult manage ezmlm using the web interface.

From what I understand ezmlm hasn't had a new version for over 10 years and ezmlm-web hasn't had a new version since 2008 while mailman has a very active development community. Do you feel this could be a potential problem if ezmlm is possibly at end-of-life? I really hate coming to rely on infrastructure that is no longer being developed and supported and having to change to a whole new infrastructure because of it.

Adam
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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2012, 05:24:38 PM »
madadam

Mailman was becoming the popular choice a couple of years back, so that's probably the direction to go.
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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #6 on: August 10, 2012, 04:04:43 AM »
madadam

Mailman was becoming the popular choice a couple of years back, so that's probably the direction to go.

Thanks Mary, I suspected that that may be the case. It's just a pity it's causing problems when installing in SME 8. I will do what I can to try and isolate the problem. I think it has actually been reported in bugzilla so if it has I will add any new information I find.

Adam
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Offline janet

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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #7 on: August 10, 2012, 04:39:23 AM »
madadam

You could install from here
http://www.gnu.org/software/mailman/index.html
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Re: Mailing list managers
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2012, 08:54:15 PM »
Ezmlm is also very robust, i use it for years on sme7, but still do not need it on my sme8 installations.

the appearance problem might be a translation problem, in which language are you using the manager ?
have you tried it on sme 7 , is the appearance different ?