Topic: Zarafa (opensource) community edition

[soprom]

The wiki says:

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nano -w /etc/e-smith/templates-user/.qmail/15Zarafa

{
   my $zarafa = $user->prop('zarafa') || ;

   return "| /usr/bin/zarafa-dagent -q $USERNAME"
           if ($zarafa eq 'enabled');
}
But I get errors when expanding.
So I changed it to this:

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{
   my $zarafa = $user->prop('zarafa') || 'disabled';

   return "| /usr/bin/zarafa-dagent -q $USERNAME"
           if ($zarafa eq 'enabled');
}

[stephen noble]

Thanks, the wiki didn't display the empty quotes ''
anything but enabled will do

note the fragment is now 80Zarafa to allow for forwarding

[dmay]

The wiki is fairly complete now with details for installing and testing Zarafa. The latest addition includes details for migrating data from the SME IMAP store into Zarafa using imapsync. Very cool.

http://wiki.contribs.org/Talk:Zarafa

Please consider this 'ALPHA' stage suitable for test servers only.

Darrell

[soprom]

Wow! It works... and it is very attractive for Outlook users!!!

Now with the fine prints:
no Advanced multi user calendar

[dmay]

Wow! It works... and it is very attractive for Outlook users!!!

Now with the fine prints:
no Advanced multi user calendar

You doubted it would work

What do you mean by Advanced multi user calendar? By default it supports Public Folders, which can contain public shared group calendars. As well each user can assign rights for others to access their personal calendar.

Darrell

[soprom]

I just noted this line reading the documentation. But I agree that it does not seem to limit usage (based on quicks tests I did).

You doubted it would work

Well, I would never dare to doubt about anything on contribs...

[soprom]

It compares well to Zimbra and it runs on my dear SME7.
It is easier to manage than EGroupware (although with less modules ie infolog).
It is spectacular with the UI looking like Outlook.
It is easy to learn with less options than MS-Outlook.
It runs well on a small server (probably because of AJAX).

With Outlook:
It is more expensive than cyrus-imap with Toltec: Zarafa is 28..45EUR vs Toltec at 13USD. But! There is no need for Outlook with this WebAccess software.
It is a lot less "intrusive" in the normal SME7 than installing cyrus-imap. But cyrus-imap adds a lot to the server.
It is more likely to survive yum updates (this remains to be seen... well in fact I have a doubt here  )

BTW: Zarafa is the Arabic word for giraffe. This software is open source since september (Affero GPLv3). They say:

In an effort to sponsor and support the creation of an enterprise open source exchange replacement, the company will contribute the full core of the server-side source code of the Zarafa platform – known for its 100% MAPI compatibility and flexibility – to the community. This will allow more options for compatibility, localization, enhancements and further integration options with other systems.

see http://zarafa.com/?q=en/18-sept-open-source

Also:

For a general rule-of-thumb, you should use to following RAM distribution:
• sortkey_cache: 1MB per concurrent user
• cell_cache: around 25% of total RAM size
• innodb_buffer_size: around 25% of total RAM size
• mysql_query_cache: a few MB
This will cause around 50%-60% of your RAM to be tied up in caches for MySQL and Zarafa. The
actual memory usage of the MySQL and Zarafa will then be slightly more than this, giving a total of
around 80% of your RAM size.

Thanks to Jester and Darrell!

[soprom]

What do you mean by Advanced multi user calendar?

It shows many user's calendars on a single page... Nice to have for a supervisor (with a couple of wide screens).

Like Balmer says: I love this... software!

[jonash]

Hi,
Just to make sure:
In the WIKI it says:
After implementing the .qmail fragment mail is sent to zarafa, and NOT the users ~\Maildir

Does this mean, that Horde, Groupoffice and other groupwares cant be used anymore, i.e. new mails will not be seen there?

Jonas

[soprom]

see http://forums.zarafa.com/viewforum.php?f=15
In my test setup, horde and thunderbird can see inbox correctly.
But a folder created in Thunderbird did go into Maildir and is not seen by zarafa,
and an inbox's subfolder in zarafa is not seen by Thunderbird/Horde.

From zarafa's forum:

Which clients are supported? And how good?

The Zarafa gateway supports both pop3(s) and imap(s).

For basic calendar usage you can use at the moment the ical gateway. This is not tested with all ical clients.
We are currently working on caldav support which is planned for the end of this year.

Most customers that are using Mac OS or Linux use the webaccess for the calendar, because much more advanced calendar features, like resources scheduling and freebusy is supported in here.

All Activesync devices can be synchronized remote via the opensoure Z-Push project, see http://z-push.sourceforge.net.

Please let me know if you have more questions.

Milo

[soprom]

When an organization goes for Outlook, it seems to me that an other groupware is not a real problem since they have made a choice of having Outlook as their groupware.

Maintaining Outlook as a groupware and an other groupware at the same time seems contradictory in my view. The same as maintaining Egroupware and Groupoffice both at the same time. It seems that other objects than inboxes are handled differently from a groupware to the other.

Just my thoughts about multi-groupware setup...

[dmay]

Does this mean, that Horde, Groupoffice and other groupwares cant be used anymore, i.e. new mails will not be seen there?
Jonas

Zarafa is toggled on/off per individual user. Meaning it coexists with everything. Those who want to use Horde may do so. Those who want to use Zarafa may do so. However if you want a user to use both Zarafa and Horde (or other apps) you would need to configure your other apps to use Zarafa's mail store for mail via either the Zarafa IMAP or POP gateway services. I dont see why you would want to do this, but it should be possible. Maybe you have a reason???

Darrell

[jonash]

No, I dont have a reson..
Just curiousity, or maybe to make sure it is possible to switch back..

Thanks for all information!

Jonas

[soprom]

Following Darrell's post, I checked my config and the port was not set to 144. So after this correction, Thunderbird was able to see all folders under inbox.

[dmay]

Following Darrell's post, I checked my config and the port was not set to 144. So after this correction, Thunderbird was able to see all folders under inbox.

[TIP] New folders added via Zarafa do not appear in Thunderbird until you manually subscribe to them.

Darrell