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« Reply #30 on: February 09, 2007, 06:14:09 PM »
You can install where you want when you want.  :)  Is this explanation ok?
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« Reply #31 on: February 09, 2007, 06:29:17 PM »
Quote from: "bpivk"
You can install where you want when you want.  :)  Is this explanation ok?


Yeah, well - it's only that you said "DrFresh this isn't correct". It got me rather confused. What was it that wasn't correct? But I'll give it a try...

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« Reply #32 on: February 09, 2007, 08:29:10 PM »
Okay...this is getting convoluted..

You can install joomla in any Ibay you desire, including the Primary. If you install it in Primary, you are all done. However, if you create another Ibay, you will need to change the Ibay it points to within the domians portion of the server-manager.

So...I create an Ibay name foo with a description of Foo Joomla. I set up Joomla in the Ibay called foo and everything works nifty. Except, I don't like www.mydomain.com/foo - I want it to just be www.mydomain.com

You would log into server-manager, choose Domains under Configurations. You then click on Modify. You then choose the appropriate Ibay (the description you gave your foo Ibay – Foo Joomla) from the Content dropdown and click the Modify button.

Viola...your domain now points to an Ibay other than Primary.

Hope this helps.

Grattman
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drfresh

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« Reply #33 on: February 09, 2007, 11:28:15 PM »
Thanks a lot Gratmann! Now it all makes sence. Then I can expriment and do some testing using an ibay for it without screwing my primary ibay up.

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« Reply #34 on: February 09, 2007, 11:58:09 PM »
Quote from: "drfresh"
What was it that wasn't correct?

That you have to install in primary domain. You don't have to. That was all. Sorry for the confusion.
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« Reply #35 on: February 11, 2007, 04:38:23 AM »
Hi William,

I understand that it's better to install ie Joomla, vTiger, WebERP in the /opt/ folder. Everytime I see quotes refering to the same statement (http://lists.contribs.org/mailman/public/devinfo/msg09462.html), but many people who install the SMEserver are actualy WindowsXP users working with WAMP like webservers.
Refering to
http://sme.firewall-services.com/spip.php?article23 and this post, we got a clearly step by step explenation how to setup Joomla or vTiger.

Quote from: "william_syd"
Quote from: "drfresh"

Rien, it might be a stupid question - sorry - but what is the procedure if I want Joomla as CMS for my main page; e.g. not installed in an ibay?


I believe that SMEServer 'policy' is not to install web apps in iBays.


Maybe there is allready someone who create a clear step-by-step manual how to do it in the /opt/ way, but I couldn't find it. I agree I-Bay's arent the best place to install company critical applications, simply because the admin is able to delete the complete I-Bay within the server-manager if I'm not wrong.

regard's
Hendrikus

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« Reply #36 on: February 11, 2007, 05:08:10 AM »
A lot of the work is done for you by those who produce rpms..

http://www.vanhees.cc/index.php?name=CmodsDownload&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=6&newlang=eng
http://www.dungog.net/sme/webapp.php

Maybe pull one of their rpms apart to see how it works.

Here is a how-to I wrote for vTiger using /opt

https://secure.magicwilly.info/phpwiki/index.php?pagename=How-to%20install%20vtigerCRM

Install phpmyadmin to setup databases.

There is one issue I have with web apps in /opt and that is using them as root content for domains.

This post has a few suggestions on how to do it.

I've raised a NFR bug for this. Bug 2460.
Regards,
William

IF I give advise.. It's only if it was me....

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« Reply #37 on: February 11, 2007, 11:56:46 AM »
William,

I found all these messages during my search for answers how to do it, but found it very confusing, not one clear way how to install applications whatever it may be. The clearest way for me is still to install them in the Ibay...

Why it's not posible to select subdirectories of the primary website for subdomains ? that would be clear and similar to the way other hosting programs are doing it.  

Regard's
Hendrikus

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« Reply #38 on: February 11, 2007, 12:26:50 PM »
Because other software uses a place for storing web content (eg www) but sme uses ibays for this purpose. You can put subdirectories in ibays but then you'll just have to do with entries like http://ip/ibay/subdirectories
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« Reply #39 on: February 12, 2007, 08:18:19 PM »
Ok, now continuing on this matter, we have joomla in /opt or in an ibay great but also would like to get a forum in the joomla space. Should i now install the forum in a subdirectory where joomla lives or should ik get an ibay to install it there and have a www.mydomain.com/joomla/forum or www.mydomain.com/forum

any sugjestions are welcome

Mike :roll:
live is to short not to enjoy it :lol: ......

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« Reply #40 on: February 12, 2007, 10:19:56 PM »
This is the way i do it:

Every CMS uses internal (between pages) and external links (to other websites). So i installed e107 into one ibay and gallery2 into another.
Then i made a dns record to e107 ibay like www.domain.com and another for gallery like gallery.domain.com.
The only thing i had to do then was to make a link in e107 that pointed to gallery. Check my website to see how it looks (click on link galerija to see gallery2).

I hope that this is what you're looking for. And please take a note of domain name (primary domain will switch to gallery domain).
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pearless

Can I use dungog's joomla install to have multiple domains?
« Reply #41 on: March 11, 2007, 10:49:33 AM »
I currently have several domains hosted, each with it's own ibay.

Can I use the Dungog JOOMLA install to put multiple JOOMLA installs one in each ibay, would it work????

Is there a better way???

Cheers Douglas.

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« Reply #42 on: March 11, 2007, 05:48:06 PM »
No it wouldn't. Dungog's joomla is installed in /opt/joomla
You'll have to do it manualy and extract joomla to different ibays with a different databases.
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« Reply #43 on: March 12, 2007, 01:54:15 AM »
Hi

As to the subject of /opt or iBay to install WebApps, ther are a few issues to consider:

If the SMEServer is a FileServer, quite often the permissions on iBays are readable (writeabld...) by shared. The www user is member of shared.

IBays show up as Windows shares on the server, making it "easy" to ruin a webapp from a windows workstation - even unknowingly or unwittingly...
Windows doesn't care about case, but tell that to SME/UNIX/PHP/Perl...

If using "virtual hosts", ibay content will only show up under a dedicatedly configured domain, or under the primary name of the server. This isn't very flexible. An iBay can not appear "under" several different domains.

Opt content will show up as default under all domains, if using the /alias/ method in httpd.conf.

Requirements and the above points should assist in deciding where to install app-x.

Using /opt does take a bit more work and know-how. Editing templates and setting permissions are among the requirements.

A SME (small and medium) company may not have a "guru" to setup a "hardened" server, but almost anyone who can read the fine manual and type in illustrated commands can install such a webapp in SME.

My 2 cts...

Andy Wismer

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« Reply #44 on: March 12, 2007, 12:18:07 PM »
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An iBay can not appear "under" several different domains.

This isn't correct. It works just fine. You just have to set it to different domains. Try www.sishell.net and www.bezigrad.com they are the same ibay.
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