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ksc133

64bit verison?
« on: May 19, 2006, 03:47:48 PM »
hi folks,

is there a 64bit verison? :-D

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« Reply #1 on: May 19, 2006, 08:41:33 PM »
No
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RodyMcAmp

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« Reply #2 on: May 21, 2006, 02:46:29 AM »
bummer

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« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2006, 11:20:24 AM »
There maybe a version planned...see bug tracker...

http://bugs.contribs.org/show_bug.cgi?id=783

Once 7.0 is out as final who know's
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2006, 02:31:16 AM »
Great question!
I was thinking on getting new hardware and was aiming at AMD64, what are the cons on getting it and not being supported? Should I suffer from being 64 bits but not the OS? Or is it OK to run as is?

Thanks,

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2006, 05:55:22 AM »
Stuntshell,
An Athlon 64 (or Opteron) will run a 32 bit or 64 bit OS.
Get the Athlon 64 and load 7rc2 for now, and load the 64 bit version on it when it becomes available.

Kevin
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2006, 01:44:26 PM »
The other stuff to keep an eye on is integrated hardware (if you are planning on using it). I have run into problems with nVidia support, and newer VIA disk controller chips not being supported.

Bob
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2006, 05:27:46 PM »
Thank you guys! This is good stuff!
I looked at some Asustek motherboards to go with the AMD64 and they are the K8N and K8V, one gets Nvidia and the other Via chipsets. Do they sound familiar Bob?
I did some googling and found some issues with the VIA and RAID controllers on other linux distros, but not CentOS.
CentOS.org says I wouldn't have problems with neither one.
Now I'm confused! :hammer:

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2006, 06:35:55 PM »
I tried an Asus a8v-mx micro ATX MB, and it idin't like the VIA VT8251 Disk controller. (I ise IDE drives). It worked, but ran like running through mud. Before that I tried a Gigabyte GA-K8N51GMF-9. Same trouble with the  nvidia IDE controller and also the NIC. I wound up putting the ASUS board in my desktop box. Hadn't planned on doing an upgrade. but what the heck. Built the server around a Gigabyte GA-K8VM800M mb with a sempron 64- 2800, 1GB ram, and 2-300GB IDE drives. It runs sweet. (I am using the 32bit version though) When CEntos and SME are 64 bit, they may support the other chip sets.

Bob
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« Reply #9 on: May 26, 2006, 03:56:29 AM »
I went with a Intel D945Gnt motherboard (SATA-2) and Intel P4 3.2HT 64bits  :-)
So far, so good!!!
Thanks for all your help!

NicolBolas

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« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2006, 09:31:11 PM »
Is there any _real_ need for a 64bit version?

As far as the 32bit runs fine, and as there's no real point on moving to 64bit yet (does sme require 4Gb ram? Can't a 3gig machine with 1gig ram handle a 100user network as SME is designed to, in 32bit mode?), I think a PowerPC version to run on Apple machines (like old Macmini or G4 towers) would be more useful than a AMD64 port...

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« Reply #11 on: December 01, 2006, 02:09:37 PM »
Has anyone bought hardware lately for their SME 7.0 server?  I'm looking to upgrade from my Duron 1.7G.  My worry is buying incompatible hardware.  Can someone please give me some recommendation?  I hear that the Sempron works fine and I want to use ASUS motherboards.  I have a low volume home office network but I do run VPN between offices.  I'm looking for hardened hardware that is 1 year or 2 old.  Or perhaps if you can point out which onboard peripherals will or won't work.  One of the posts above mentioned that nvidia ide and NIC have issues.  Is that still the case?  I'm also interested in boards that have built in serial adapter.  Many of the new boards nolonger include it.

Any help would be appreciated.

hdaei

check CentOS... but anything not too special should be good
« Reply #12 on: December 01, 2006, 03:17:00 PM »
I've played with SME on many platforms, but as it usually needs to run reliably, decent hardware is suggested.  I've had excellent experience with Tyan AMD products.  Pick any of their server (opteron) series and you will be in great shape.  (I have no connection to Tyan, just a very satisfied customer who has spent thousands on their products, and will continue to buy from them.)  Remember that SME actaully has pretty low requirements, so you can pick up a lower end MB with opteron with quite a bit of memory for cheap.  I like Newegg and Provantage... had great luck with both.

If you are looking for a bit more power, perhaps a dual core would suit you... Dell has come very inexpensive Athlon Dual core boxes for well under $1000... working on one right now.

Hope this helps!

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« Reply #13 on: December 01, 2006, 05:20:55 PM »
Yes, this is very helpful.  Thanks for your response.

If you don't mind, it would be great if you can post your server spec.  



Thanks...

hdaei

Too many.... ;)
« Reply #14 on: December 01, 2006, 05:51:16 PM »
My first was an original Athlon 500 with 256MB RAM and a 20 GB HDD....

Current ones include a P4 with 1GB RAM and 80GB HDD, a Tyan one based on a http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8s.html with 1 GB RAM and an 80GB HDD (very nice, highly recommend if you feel comfortable building a system)

Again, if you don't want to mess with hardware, pick up a Dell Athlon 64 dual core with 1GB ram and 160GB HDD for under $700, add an additional NIC, gigabit if you like (about $12 for a zonet / realtek from newegg last I checked) and you'll have a rocking system.

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Re: Too many.... ;)
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2006, 05:55:49 PM »
Quote from: "hdaei"
My first was an original Athlon 500 with 256MB RAM and a 20 GB HDD....

Current ones include a P4 with 1GB RAM and 80GB HDD, a Tyan one based on a http://www.tyan.com/products/html/tomcatk8s.html with 1 GB RAM and an 80GB HDD (very nice, highly recommend if you feel comfortable building a system)

Again, if you don't want to mess with hardware, pick up a Dell Athlon 64 dual core with 1GB ram and 160GB HDD for under $700, add an additional NIC, gigabit if you like (about $12 for a zonet / realtek from newegg last I checked) and you'll have a rocking system.


 :D

Thanks so much.  Much appreciate the info and quick response.

hdaei

Happy to help
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2006, 06:35:27 PM »
My pleasure... please post again! :)