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SME or Kuadra?!

Offline MSmith

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« Reply #15 on: December 02, 2005, 02:09:55 PM »
Now don't be like that, Wally ... don't you find kiruxadmin's posts even slightly entertaining?

What I'm waiting for is the CentOS version of Kuadra.  Because SME 6/Kuadra = RH7.3 = good, but the PAST and SME 7 = CentOS = the FUTURE.

Just think ... all that programming work, pulling all those disparate elements together and integrating them into the templating system.  (I couldn't do it, so kudos to the SME dev team ... and, I suppose, to Moses as well.)  Personally, if I were Moses, I'd contemplate the very spiffy version 7 and just cry myself to sleep at night thinking about all the work ahead of me.

In short:  Kuadra = PWNED, SME = TEH WINNAR!
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jimmyneutron

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« Reply #16 on: June 18, 2006, 05:16:30 AM »
Hey I just tried the kirux product after trying SME Server 7. I found the Kuadra system to be the exact same system with a lot of addons, but he only allows me to have 10 users. Since most of the database configuration is the same (even the wording e-smith on the commands), what would be the command to disable this limited number of accounts?

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« Reply #17 on: June 18, 2006, 05:30:39 AM »
You could try deleting a file that counts the active users under the events folder, locate count-active-users
That may keep the database from growing   :-D

jimmyneutron

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« Reply #18 on: June 18, 2006, 05:09:14 PM »
:-(
Not it

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« Reply #19 on: June 23, 2006, 04:22:36 AM »
Humm, in that case one of the developers can help you, maybe Charlie and the guys can give you the answer.
That will certainly put this guy out of business  :-D

Why don't you use plain SME instead? Is there any advantage of using this copied version?

Offline mrjhb3

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« Reply #20 on: July 02, 2006, 12:10:37 PM »
I'm a little late to the game here, but I gave the kuadra 11.2 server a quick spin and here are my thoughts.  Kind of long sorry.
Quote from: "jimmyneutron"
Hey I just tried the kirux product after trying SME Server 7. I found the Kuadra system to be the exact same system with a lot of addons,

Yes, that is what I see as well.  A lot of the addons would make nice contribs in sme 7.  There are some differences, like cyrus imap instead of dovecot.  What's that really give me?  All I could see was the ability to enforce a  separate email quota on a per user basis.  I thought dovecot 1.0 was supposed to support this as well, but I could be wrong.  SME currently uses .99

Quote from: "jimmyneutron"
but he only allows me to have 10 users. Since most of the database configuration is the same (even the wording e-smith on the commands), what would be the command to disable this limited number of accounts?

Again, I see that as well.  This is nothing specific or exclusive to the Kaudra system, it is still just using an SME db setting.  Use this command to get around that limitation: config delprop sysconfig MaxUsers

Personal observations about the Kuadra server:

It doesn't matter how pretty you try to make the interface, or how many addons you bundle into this product, it's still based on stolen code from SME Server without the proper copyright information.  How can you not give credit to SME Server!  Without SME Server, you have no code to base your system off off.  

There has been quite a bit of work done to mask the templating system.  i.e. moving the templates to a different directory structure, but you still use the same basic calls.

The server operates in the server/gateway mode only.  To simulate the serveronly mode, you put the internal and external interfaces in the same subnet.  What's that about?  I got this info from the Kirux forums.  If I mis-understood this point, please correct me.

The server installs Horde 3.0.9, which contains a security vulnerability that is/was being highly exploited.  I don't see a way to apply updates to this system?  Did I miss something?

Where are the sources for this distro?  You can't see what rpms have been installed since the install is done from an image file.  At least rpm -qa doesn't give you any output.

What portions of this distro code are really Kirux proprietary?  Besides the remote i-bays, most everything installed is already open sourced.

Most of this post has been pretty negative, but there are some good things that the system has:  Most of the addons would be excellent contribs for sme 7.  IMO some could even go into the base if the Kirux folks decided to work with the dev team.

Sub-domain panel - Being able to easily create sub-domains and set what the default content would be.  I didn't do much here, but on the surface, this looks like a good feature.  This is probably not that hard to port to SME 7 as an add-on

LDAP GAL Contacts - Being able to have a global address book of contacts without having to create users is good.  This is probably not that hard to port to SME 7 as on add-on.

Additional proxy settings and reports - I think if we dig around enough in the forums, we can find that someone has made most of these functions available on SME 7.

Content Filtering - using squidguard - Again, I think most of this is available if we dig.

IM - I think this would be a good contrib for SME 7.  Didn't try this on KES.

Don't really like how KES is doing backup, though.

I think it would be and could be very beneficial to all to have the Kirux dev folks work with the SME dev folks to continue to refine and enhance the SME Server.  A lot of dev time has been spent by Kirux folks to get their clone system out the door, which could have benefited the development of SME 7 and the contribs.org community.  I just think it's fraud to sell a system that you claim as yours without any acknowledgement of where the actual code base is being derived from.

So, that's my two cents worth.  I do hope Moses sees this post so he can add some comments and clarifications.

Thanks,

John Bennett
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Offline sognenovski

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« Reply #21 on: July 02, 2006, 04:03:00 PM »
It was months ago when I gave this distro clone a blast.

No software raid
Didnt load on Dell SC430 (sata hdd)
Unstable in server only mode

Backup method wasnt ideal.....yep, I to have learnt the hard way.

So I stop wasting my time and loaded 6 back up with the contribs.

With the little knowledge of SME/Linux, I did try this

/sbin/e-smith/db configuration setprop sysconfig MaxUsers 100

though, you have to save this? (not sure)

Steve