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djhomeless

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« Reply #15 on: January 28, 2005, 01:13:02 PM »
Considering my recent track record I'd be best to steer well clear of helping directly. ;)

However, I'm more than will to test, write documentation, or writing motivational speeches....whatever!

I personally think the bounty is a great idea, however if people crack it regardless we could always donate the cash to contribs to help them keep the site and the movement going!

Geoffrey

dave_d

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« Reply #16 on: January 28, 2005, 01:20:58 PM »
Hello GoVeGeTa!

Now I presently have a client that's ABSOLUTELY insistant that all the functions previously offered to him by his former employer vis-a-vis Outlook be offered in his new setup. (He recently broke away from the old firm to set up on his own.)  At the time of me agreeing to install a simple, cheap network he agreed to an SME server box - but didn't make it clear just how Windoze centric he really is.  He will countenance no replacement for Outlook no matter how good.  That leaves me with a problem in that (to date) it seems that only M$ can provide all the functions of Exchange server.

I'm presently looking at Cyrus to provide enough functions to get me out of the present bind, but I'm not sure yet if that's the complete answer - I haven't finished all the testing work required.

However, alongside this Cyrus effort I'm quite happy to get involved with you and other like minded folk to get OpenExchange working - provided it does what it's supposed to do!!  I suppose a more resounding 'Yes!, that's the way forward' from other potential usrs/SME developers would be welcome!

I might add that I regard the ability to be able to remove something as being just as important as the ability to add something.  FWIW, that's my current problem with Cyrus - but I'm getting there!

Regards,

Dave

GoVeGeTa

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« Reply #17 on: January 28, 2005, 01:27:04 PM »
M8, I am willing to do this simply for the fact that this should stay community based, meaning that (this is only my opinion) by offering bounties we are throwing the community based project out to the vultures, and by doing so we may end up commercialising this distro!

By coming across something that we perceive as being out of our league, and hoping that the wave of a few bucks will entice ppl to do it for us will turn us into
BILL 'Microshaft' GATES!

I hope it never comes to that!

My 2 cents worth!

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GoVeGeTa

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2005, 01:30:20 PM »
Sorry for double posting!

Hi ya dave_d
Open exchange, i think, should be made a community project!
Considering the interest in it!

I think it will benefit all of us to commence this asap!

Like i said earlier, between us all we should be able to get it going, and to be working quite well in no time at all!


I hope!


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Offline Peter

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« Reply #19 on: January 28, 2005, 02:14:41 PM »
It should be noted there is no ADMIN The only admin is via individual input which on any network is out of the question. The version that has ADMIN is Suse own product and expencive!
Have a look at egroupware which can be loaded directly into an i-bay in the SME v5.6b and has all the ADMIN necessary

Just my two penny's worth

djhomeless

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« Reply #20 on: January 28, 2005, 03:49:29 PM »
Quote from: "GoVeGeTa"
...by offering bounties we are throwing the community based project out to the vultures, and by doing so we may end up commercialising this distro!


I understand where you are coming from, but I disagree. The point of the bounty was not intended to push a level of commercialisation onto the community. In a way, I was being selfish, and egletarian at the same time. I want O-XE for my own personal reasons. I don't have the ability to do the work myself, so I was hoping that someone would be intersted in making some money, and sharing the knowledge in a way that would benefit the community.

At the end of the day, the community will decide what is best for SME based on demand from a large cross-section of users, not just a few lazy sods like me waving money around.  :-D

I'm glad to see so many people are interested in discussing O-XE, but at the end of the day I'm sorry if the bounty sugggestion has led people to think its a step towards psuhing a specific agenda on the community

My 2 cents,

Geoffrey

GoVeGeTa

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« Reply #21 on: January 28, 2005, 05:16:01 PM »
No, by all means do i think you are pushing a specific agenda on the community!

Bounty's I suppose are good for motivation!

All I think is, that by doing the above you will encourage new users who cant be bothered to learn or do the research, to pay someone to do it!
Thus reducing the amount of ppl actually able to do things , in turn privatising the add-ons and such!

I know the only way any one can learn is to try and to fail!
(trust me, i do it all the time)
So in restrospect all I am saying is to try it out yourself!
Even if it is out of your depth. Cos' I know it is way out of my league, but I will try and like i said in the last post with the help of the community I'm sure we can get it to work properly!

Or work at all!

I am prepared to fail first!

Gotta walk b4 u run!

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« Reply #22 on: January 28, 2005, 06:31:32 PM »
Quote from: "GoVeGeTa"
All I think is, that by doing the above you will encourage new users who cant be bothered to learn or do the research, to pay someone to do it!
Where do you draw the line of doing things yourself?  Should we never go out to eat because we can cook food ourselves?  Paying for a service is not a new idea.

I belive the idea of this 'bounty' was to encourage someone to do the work, but then share the installation script/rpms freely.  I don't understand why you would have a problewm with that.

mach1_4fun

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« Reply #23 on: January 28, 2005, 08:41:55 PM »
Hey Everyone,

I might take a crack at it this weekend,
Is there more of an interest in getting it to work on 6.01 or the new 6.5 Beta2 ?

Have a good weekend,
Matt

GoVeGeTa

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« Reply #24 on: January 28, 2005, 10:55:42 PM »
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I belive the idea of this 'bounty' was to encourage someone to do the work, but then share the installation script/rpms freely. I don't understand why you would have a problewm with that.



I dont have a problem with that!

If you read almost every topic in these forums,they're about other usrs who have tried or are trying to get something to work who cant get past a certain point,
asking for somone to have alook at it! Or for help!

No Bounty's or anything like that, just someone trying and being unable to do something.

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Where do you draw the line of doing things yourself? Should we never go out to eat because we can cook food ourselves? Paying for a service is not a new idea.


My point is,(and this was just the way I was raised),
in your terminolgy gregswallow, if you can cook for yourself, cook for yourself, and save your money or give it to a charity or something!

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GoVeGeTa

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« Reply #25 on: January 28, 2005, 11:02:02 PM »
Quote from: "mach1_4fun"

I might take a crack at it this weekend,
Is there more of an interest in getting it to work on 6.01 or the new 6.5 Beta2 ?


Hey Matt,

look I am going to try it out on 6.0.1-01, as i believe that the majority of users are on this.

I dont think i'll touch  6.5 just yet!

I'm going to try it out this weekend, so I hope somone is goona answer my cries for help when i get stuck!

 :pint:

Jon_Reynolds

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« Reply #26 on: January 28, 2005, 11:27:03 PM »
What are you freakin out about? All the exclamation points and what not, settle down. I never said I was gonna try and do it for the money, I simply said I was looking back into it and was gonna try it. I said I would post my success and failures back into the forum. Not that I would keep all the knowledge to myself then bilk the group for cash like a pimp.

  Don't get me wrong I actually agree with you in some part, the collaboration part is totally correct. If someone really wants this feature and is willing to pay to have it done then have that knowledge given back to the community, that is alright. There is nothing wrong with that at all, it is a personal decision on their part.

If I had succeded I would not have taken the money but you would all owe. ;)

That said, Here are a few thoughts about this.

I think with the new release to be coming out of open-xchange 0.8 I think is supposed to have support for M$ clients as well.
We can still try to install and work out any problems then when 0.8 comes out we will have a headstart.

The next problem is if SME is going to change the underlying OS I think maybe we should have two seperate projects for this, one trying to get it on the stable 6.01-1 and the newer 6.5b. This way when the beta is finished we will at least have a good understanding of what was needed.

Couple questions:

Does open-xchange use postgressql rather than mysql that e-smith uses?  What are the problems that we are likely to run into if this is the case?

Jon_Reynolds

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« Reply #27 on: January 28, 2005, 11:37:53 PM »
SMOKES!!!!

Well, I guess I should have paid a bit more attention to my post. Or the position of my post in the forum. There seems to be a page 2 and I was replying to a page 1 response.

At any rate, I hope I didn't come across as a jerk, that wasn't my intention. I was just saying some people want a feature and would prefer it sooner than later. If they can't do it themselves what are they supposed to do? I think the bounty in this case was a legit reason for the original poster.

GoVegeta, I will setup a 6.01-1 server today and I will start trying to go through it, I would very much appreciate help as you offered, anyone else want to try? Should we setup a seperate thread or keep this one?

Jon

GoVeGeTa

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« Reply #28 on: January 29, 2005, 01:23:44 AM »
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GoVegeta, I will setup a 6.01-1 server today and I will start trying to go through it, I would very much appreciate help as you offered, anyone else want to try? Should we setup a seperate thread or keep this one?


lets keep it rolling!

I'm starting mine in a couple of hours, dont forget to write down all your steps Jon!




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Jon_Reynolds

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« Reply #29 on: January 29, 2005, 01:30:26 AM »
I will, I live in Alaska and the box I am going to use was in the truck last night, so it's thawing out. :)

I also have to d/l the .iso because I can't find any of mine. :(

Jon