Topic: yum or not to yum

[hardijs]

installed the latest and the greatest from the pagefault.org to discover a new tool has been landed in my (our) lap.

yum.

now any idea as to proceed with the yum offered updates or stay cautious.

got a mail from update manager with quite a few things that look promising.
(namely e-smith ...release and athlon optimised kernel)

Any opinion would be rather wellcomed.

apache                                   i386       1.3.27-4
cvs                                      i386       1.11.1p1-9.7.legacy
e-smith-base                             noarch     4.14.1-16
e-smith-email                            noarch     4.14.0-07
e-smith-formmagick                       noarch     1.2.2-02
e-smith-hosts                            noarch     1.12.0-02
e-smith-ldap                             noarch     4.10.0-03
e-smith-lib                              noarch     1.14.0-10
e-smith-lib-Tai64n                       noarch     1.14.0-08
e-smith-lilo                             noarch     1.12.0-04
e-smith-manager                          noarch     1.10.0-02
e-smith-release                          noarch     6.0.1-01
e-smith-support                          noarch     1.4.4-04
fileutils                                i386       4.1-10.4
glibc                                    i686       2.2.5-44
glibc-common                             i386       2.2.5-44
gnupg                                    i386       1.0.7-13
initscripts                              i386       6.67-1es25
iproute                                  i386       2.4.7-7.73.1
iptables                                 i386       1.2.8-8.72.3
kernel                                   athlon     2.4.20-30.7.legacy
kernel-smp                               athlon     2.4.20-30.7.legacy
libpcap                                  i386       0.6.2-17.7.3.4.legacy
mysql                                    i386       3.23.58-1.73
mysql-devel                              i386       3.23.58-1.73
mysql-server                             i386       3.23.58-1.73
perl                                     i386       5.6.1-36.1.73
perl-CPAN                                i386       1.59_54-36.1.73
perl-DB_File                             i386       1.75-36.1.73
perl-NDBM_File                           i386       1.75-36.1.73
perl-suidperl                            i386       5.6.1-36.1.73
pine                                     i386       4.44-19.73.0
rsync                                    i386       2.5.7-0.7
screen                                   i386       3.9.11-4.legacy
tcpdump                                  i386       3.6.3-17.7.3.4.legacy
ucd-snmp                                 i386       4.2.5-8.73.1
ucd-snmp-utils                           i386       4.2.5-8.73.1
unzip                                    i386       5.50-31


The following rpms are available for installing on your server:

Gathering package information from servers
Getting headers from: charlieBrady_base
Getting headers from: iblio
Getting headers from: pagefault
Finding updated packages
Downloading needed headers
Name                                     Arch       Version
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
XFree86-libs                             i386       4.2.1-13.73.23
anaconda                                 i386       7.3-7es116
anaconda-runtime                         i386       7.3-7es116
iptables-ipv6                            i386       1.2.8-8.72.3
ucd-snmp-devel                           i386       4.2.5-8.73.1
w3m                                      i386       0.3.1-4.7x.1

[Anonymous]

If you are experienced enough and if it's no production system: just try.

I would not dare updating more than one thing at a time.  I've experience quite many trouble due to updating (and insufficient skills too); it feels all like windows. Update CLAM AV, break Spamassassin, update mrtg, break sysmon, install securemail, break qmail.

[wyron]

Yeah, right !
Enjoy the tool, but keep your cool, like our anonymous 'Guest' suggests.
I haven't had the experience of anything breaking down on me yet, but then again - I only update when I have a specific reason to !
So I use it mainly to keep track of development.

[mbachmann]

The timeout setting is too short. I have no fear suggesting with my name. If nothing's broken for you, wyron from Denmark: congrats.

[wyron]

You know what, MB - you're absolutely right - the timeout setting is too short.
I was a bit fast off the mark stating that nothing has broken down on me yet - what I meant was that nothing has broken down as a result of utilizing yum . .  . yet !

PS! Enjoyed meeting you in a thread even if I didn't know it was you.
Perhaps with yum you learned the hard way to 'Enjoy the tool, but keep your cool' ?

PPS! I wasn't trying to imply that there was anything wrong with your post, even if it was anonymous. I just referred to it, as it were.

[bobk]

I setup a test server to see what might break by updating to 6.0.1-01.

Step by step what I have done so far.

01 - clean install of Mitel 6.0 final
02 - update to contribs.org ver 6.0.1-01

RPMs installed for the update.
e-smith-base 4.14.1-16
e-smith-formmagick 1.2.2-02
e-smith-hosts 1.12.0-02
e-smith-ldap 4.10.0-03
e-smith-lib 1.14.0-10
e-smith-lilo 1.12.0-04
e-smith-manager 1.10.0-02
e-smith-release 6.0.1-01
e-smith-support 1.4.4-04

03 - atalk service disabled

04 - Installed the following contribs

Yum (including D May SM Panel ver 1.1.0-03)
ClamAV (with SM Panel pagefault.org)
User Manager Panel (Dungog ver 1.6.0-3)
Secure Mail (pagefault.org)
DHCP lease manager
BannerFilter (ver 1.2.1)
UpDate System (Dungog ver 0.0.1-15)
Backup2WS (D May ver 0.0.1-18)
phpsysinfo (D May ver 2.1.1)
sysmon (4.1.3)
Awstats (2.3.4-0 = awststs ver 5.7)
MX Backup (Schirrm ver 0.0.3-02)

05 - updated the following packages to the versions below using D May's Yum SM Panel.

iproute-2.4.7-1
libpcap-0.6.2-17.7.3.2
perl-NDBM_File-1.75-34.99.6
screen-3.9.11-3
glibc-common-2.2.5-43
perl-suidperl-5.6.1-34.99.6
fileutils-4.1-10.1
mysql-3.23.56-1.73
tcpdump-3.6.3-17.7.3.3
perl-DB_File-1.75-34.99.6
iptables-1.2.5-3
ucd-snmp-4.2.5-7.73.0
cvs-1.11.1p1-7es02
mysql-server-3.23.56-1.73
glibc-2.2.5-43
unzip-5.50-11
rsync-2.5.4-2es1
perl-CPAN-1.59_54-34.99.6
gnupg-1.0.7-7
mysql-devel-3.23.56-1.73
perl-5.6.1-34.99.6
pine-4.44-7.73.0
apache-1.3.27-2

4 days of testing and everything seems to be working fine.

I have been running some heavy use VPN connections into this test network with no problems. Clients used so far are W2Kpro (latest SP) and XPpro.

[wyron]

I have been running some heavy use VPN connections into this test network with no problems. Clients used so far are W2Kpro (latest SP) and XPpro.

Ah - you have tickled my curiousity, since I can't get VPN to function from my W2K-box @ work !
When trying to connect, I get as far as username and password validation, then the error 781 for no valid certificate.
If I try to connect with encryption as an option instead, I get error 789 for problems with L2TP initial negotiation.
How did you get through ?

[bobk]

...
How did you get through ?

I did not do anything special, below is my setup:

Site 1
Internet connection = ADSL with fixed IP (service provider A)
Gateway Server = Mitel SME 5.6 U6
Workstation1 & 2 = W2Kpro ver 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 build 2195
Workstation3 - 6 = XPpro ver 5.1.2600

Site 2
Internet connection = ADSL with fixed IP (service provider B)
Gateway Server = SME 6.0.1-01 setup as in my post above.
Workstation1 = W2Kpro ver 5.0.2195 Service Pack 4 build 2195
Workstation2 = XPpro ver 5.1.2600

Internal IP ranges - Site1 is 10.0.0.xxx. Site2 is 192.168.0.xxx
All workstations have fixed IPs assigned in the Gateway Server Hostnames and addresses SM panel.
Site1 Host IPs have been entered into the Site2 SM Hostnames and addresses panel as Remote Hosts.
Both Gateway Servers setup to allow 5 PPTP Clients.
All workstations have the Remote Access Connection Manager service running.
XPpro workstations have the "winxplogon.reg" applied.
All VPN connections were setup using the Windows Network Connection Wizard default settings.

A stable VPN connection can be established from any of the workstations at either site to the other site. Once the VPN connection is established I can connect to and use any network share.

I hope some of this information will help you.

Bob

[wyron]

Ok, then it's a nogo for me, since my box @ work is hidden in a MPLS cloud, on a firewalled subnet behind a firewalled subnet behind . . and so on.
Damned !
But thanks for the specification, anyway.

[mbachmann]

So i am alone in breaking up my server via manual updates panel (not yum), sigh. I assure you that i've experienced quite some trouble with Clam AV, SA securemail, tinydns, CUPS and sysmon on a 6.0 box. But thanks to this forum i get it fixed.

wyron:

bobk, thanks for describing the testing/updating process.

[knewbie]

I've seen yum in action and used the ibilio and a RedHat repositiory to make an update, and all seems to work...

Can someone point me to the repositories I should be using in order to keep my SME6.01 up-to date and not break it by using the wrong source ???

[wyron]

I have only four repositories as of yet.
They are . . .
Contribs (of course): http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/distributions/smeserver/releases/development/RPMS/
Charlie Bradys update: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/contrib/CharlieBrady/yum-repository/6.0/updates/
CB's base: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/linux/distributions/e-smith/contrib/CharlieBrady/yum-repository/6.0/base/
Norlugs: http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/mirrors/norlug/redhat-7.3/RPMS/
Although there are a great deal of packages at Norlug, updates and new both, I haven't had the guts to try out any of them.
From the others I've taken what there is except the anaconda-updates.
Found interesting alternatives, anyone ??

PS! Once again, thxs to Darrell for a brilliant contrib (yum-yum) !

[Hardijs_]

pagefault
http://www.pagefault.org/download/e-smith/6.0/updates/i386/

[mbachmann]

I added the yum from dmay and it appeared in server manager.

Trying to remove an added repository does not work, to check a rep. does not work either.

Calling yum from command prompt:
"Not using ftp, http, or file for servers, Aborting - dmay" - whatever options are being used.

It has worked from the console before i installed Dmays contrib. I think i messed something up with the yum which comes with Clam AV from pagefault.org, but maybe someone has a hint?

[wyron]

Hi, MB
I had the same problem a couple of weeks ago.
Did you get the latest yum-contrib from Darrell ?
Did you 'signal-event' and restart after rpm -Uvh... ?
As far as I remember that was what did it for me.
The yum-service is working flawlessly for me now (yummie-yummie).