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SME 8 final?

Offline edb

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SME 8 final?
« on: January 17, 2009, 05:47:49 PM »
Does anyone know when SME 8 final will be released?
I'm needing to migrate to PHP 5 and MYSQL 5 soon which are standard in SME 8 but I'm reluctant to do so until it has reached the final release stage.

Is there some sort of expected time frame that the dev's have for the final production version of SME 8?

Thanks

edb
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Offline Stefano

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2009, 07:38:33 PM »
@edb

you are a forum's poster since 2004... you should know that there's no release schedule.. SME 8 will be released when ready.. :-)

Ciao
Stefano

p.s. BTW, there are many post with the same question and, of course, the same answer ;-)

Offline byte

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2009, 07:55:07 PM »
And for any SME Server release we need (a lot of) beta testers...
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Offline edb

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2009, 08:17:08 PM »

I guess I was just wondering if the final release was imminent or a case of much more work needing to be done which would then mean that it could be several more months before a final release.
I understand there being no schedule.

Guess I'll just wait and see ... and leave it to the powers that be.

Thanks

edb


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Offline kevinb

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2009, 08:17:38 PM »
I have been running SME 8 on vmware with no issues. But I have done little testing since I need some contribs. So I can't test until we go to RC1.

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2009, 01:17:57 AM »
I'm needing to migrate to PHP 5 and MYSQL 5 soon which are standard in SME 8 but I'm reluctant to do so until it has reached the final release stage.

I had similar requirements but chose to leverage the vmware how-to and have set up my dependent applications in a virtual machine. I first considered this a work-around but now it is part of my deployment strategy.

We often have a tendency to force apps onto SME to consolidate machines but some of these apps really don't care where they are and use of a VM gives you significant flexibility.

Christian
SME since 2003

Offline edb

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2009, 02:23:27 AM »
Thanks Christian!


That may be something I will have to look at doing as well and I will likely do so, since it looks like SME 8 final will be a while in coming.

Best ragards

Ed

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Offline psoren

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2009, 05:23:36 AM »
I had similar requirements but chose to leverage the vmware how-to and have set up my dependent applications in a virtual machine. I first considered this a work-around but now it is part of my deployment strategy.

We often have a tendency to force apps onto SME to consolidate machines but some of these apps really don't care where they are and use of a VM gives you significant flexibility.

Christian

If i wantet to do the VMware trick and have a webpage there i want to be able to see from the internet, how would it be possible to have an adress that jumped to that page on the VM? Any hints/ideas?

Per

Offline cactus

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2009, 02:34:13 PM »
If i wantet to do the VMware trick and have a webpage there i want to be able to see from the internet, how would it be possible to have an adress that jumped to that page on the VM? Any hints/ideas?

Per
If it is a webpage for a certain domain you could use proxypass: http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Documentation:FAQ#Proxy_Pass

Next time please do not hijack topics. First of all this is not your topic, second of all the topic does not cover your question. Please read this page in the wiki: http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Community:Forum
« Last Edit: January 18, 2009, 02:35:59 PM by cactus »
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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2009, 07:39:40 PM »
Does anyone know when SME 8 final will be released?
I'm needing to migrate to PHP 5 and MYSQL 5 soon which are standard in SME 8 but I'm reluctant to do so until it has reached the final release stage.

Is there some sort of expected time frame that the dev's have for the final production version of SME 8?
edb

SME 8 beta isn't on a specific time frame that I'm aware of.  It is actively under development.

However, if all you are wanting is php5 and mysql 5 on SME 7.4, then you can do so as Centos now provides these packages in the centosplus repositories for centos 4.7.   http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/centos/4.7/centosplus/i386/RPMS/

I have been using the php5 builds from these repos on my production machines for a few months now with no issue what so ever.
« Last Edit: January 18, 2009, 07:41:46 PM by gzartman »
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Offline byte

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2009, 07:44:36 PM »
However, if all you are wanting is php5 and mysql 5 on SME 7.4, then you can do so as Centos now provides these packages in the centosplus repositories for centos 4.7.   http://mirror.anl.gov/pub/centos/4.7/centosplus/i386/RPMS/

But please remember this is not supported by SME Server 7.x
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Offline gzartman

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2009, 08:48:13 PM »
But please remember this is not supported by SME Server 7.x

Granted, but they are provided, supported and tested by Centos.  If person REALLY needs php5/mysql5, then these packages are a pretty safe bet.  As byte points out, do so at your own risk.


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Offline psoren

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2009, 09:30:45 PM »

Next time please do not hijack topics. First of all this is not your topic, second of all the topic does not cover your question. Please read this page in the wiki: http://wiki.contribs.org/SME_Server:Community:Forum

Sorry... And thank you for pointing me in the right direction(s)

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2009, 09:35:08 PM »
Granted, but they are provided, supported and tested by Centos.  If person REALLY needs php5/mysql5, then these packages are a pretty safe bet.  As byte points out, do so at your own risk.

Based on the number of people of who had issues upgrading to 7.4 due to independent upgrades of these core packages, I would only recommend it to people who truly understand what they are doing.

SME since 2003

Offline gzartman

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Re: SME 8 final?
« Reply #14 on: January 19, 2009, 02:06:53 AM »
Based on the number of people of who had issues upgrading to 7.4 due to independent upgrades of these core packages, I would only recommend it to people who truly understand what they are doing.

I believe these issues were related to installing non-centos produced rpms, not rpms released BY centos.  I agree with you that there are howtos out there for installing php5 on SME that could cause upgrade issues.

However, the packages contained in centosplus are built to respect the core release and are updated within 72 hours of a core release:  http://mirror.centos.org/centos/4/centosplus/Readme.txt

SME 7.x updates should not have an issue with centosplus packages as any new centos released packages, which SME is based on, will respect the dependencies of the centosplus packages and visa-versa.

While centosplus packages are not officially supported by SME, I feel that the php and mysql updates can be made with very little risk to the end user.
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